I think I should also do this, i.e switch from Admob ---> QW or Mobclix. If even I made 50 per day it would be enough...but yes how to force user to update ? I have more than 10k active installs.
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Dan Sherman <[email protected]> wrote: > I would imagine their tax lines look something like this: > > Client --> Google :: $1.00 > Google --> Developer :: $0.70 > > Google's taxable income: $0.30 > > Note that they don't explicitly tell the government "We paid XXX to > developer Y", they just note that the money left their hands, and that they > shouldn't be taxed on it. Essentially, its your responsibility to mention > that you received the money. If they wanted to track that cash, should be > very easy to see :) > > - Dan > > > On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 12:16 AM, Kevin Duffey <[email protected]>wrote: > >> I would think the same thing. Maybe it's the google market that doesn't >> report it? I had asked about this some time ago, for those selling apps and >> making their 70%, at tax time do they get some 1099 or something, and >> several said no. So I am unclear as to how the market handles taxes... as >> well, if you do micro transactions in your app, where you charge $1 for some >> virtual item, using paypal/google, who take a cut, how is that handled? Does >> google/paypal send in info on how much was paid to you.. that is not clear >> to me at all. >> >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 11:06 PM, Dan Sherman <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> I would very seriously suspect that they report it. I remember having to >>> give a social-security/tax-id to Adsense when signing up. And just thinking >>> through their tax predicament (bringing in tons of money, and seeing a lot >>> of it go straight back out), they're going to need to keep records, and >>> report as to where that money went out to. Mostly so they don't have to pay >>> taxes on it (was your profits, not theirs). >>> >>> - Dan >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:54 PM, Kevin Duffey <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Well, yes, you *should* report it.. but if google and admob and so forth >>>> don't report anything to the IRS, then it's basically on good faith. There >>>> isn't presently any way for them to track how much you make. I would >>>> imagine >>>> eventually something will come into play. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 7:00 PM, Wayne Wenthin <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'll chime in on this. I have switched from admob to mobclix >>>>> recently. (actually I can control which one I use base on a network >>>>> check) >>>>> I have noticed my CTR jump from around 2-3 a day to around 7. This makes >>>>> me >>>>> more inclined to hang with them. But I only changed after I watch admob >>>>> drop from around 7 a day to 1-2. Now 150 a day is my new goal ;-) But I >>>>> figure if I can bring in 100 a month or so it's still better than nothing. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> As for the IRS thing this is all income and it will need to be reported >>>>> in some way. >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 12:36 PM, Abdul Mateen <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes Really Moto $150/day is a damn good income from Ads, I am only >>>>>> making $1-$2/day , and I am using Admob + Greystripe.. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 12:31 AM, Kevin Duffey >>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I am interested in this as well. First, Moto.. $150 a day? Holy crap! >>>>>>> I'd love to have that much 7 days a week coming in. That would >>>>>>> supplement my >>>>>>> income nicely. :) Second, slightly off topic, but directly related to >>>>>>> revenue.. with that much coming in, or say even more if you had like >>>>>>> $1000 a >>>>>>> day coming in, what do you do about income taxes? I was told by some >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> google doesn't send any money making info to IRS.. so essentially there >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> no way for IRS or any tax/government to track how much you make. I am >>>>>>> probably a long ways off from earning $1 a day.. but I am curious how >>>>>>> you >>>>>>> handle this issue. Is it on faith that you pay taxes... and mind you, >>>>>>> you >>>>>>> can shoot a private email if this is something that you wouldn't want to >>>>>>> make public. :) I am not trying to cheat the IRS out of money by any >>>>>>> means.. >>>>>>> I would rather be legit... but am interested in how this is done. >>>>>>> Living in >>>>>>> California I already lose half my paycheck to taxes between state and >>>>>>> federal. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The ads that are done in games, don't they have to be clicked on to >>>>>>> earn money? You said you have 60,000 users, do a lot of them click the >>>>>>> ads >>>>>>> while playing a game? Or even in a splash screen or game-over screen? >>>>>>> Or do >>>>>>> you earn money just by showing the ad? I would hope both.. clicks == >>>>>>> more >>>>>>> money, showing == very little. But if you get nothing from displaying >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> ad.. that seems ridiculous... because you are advertising for that ad.. >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> user is seeing that ad.. even if they don't click it, it may trigger >>>>>>> them >>>>>>> later to look it up, etc. If you do make some money off of each ad >>>>>>> displayed... how does it work? I mean, you could write a robot app that >>>>>>> made >>>>>>> it seem like 10's of 1000's of people were at least seeing the ad. There >>>>>>> must be some way that admob and others avoid "cheating" and losing >>>>>>> money. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lastly, I thought things like admob required an ad all the time? You >>>>>>> can control when/where you display it? I thought admob was a small >>>>>>> banner ad >>>>>>> at the bottom of the screen all the time.. and it's sdk/api controlled >>>>>>> how >>>>>>> often an ad was displayed? What level of control do you have over say.. >>>>>>> putting ads during game play, or just on the splash screen and >>>>>>> end-game/high >>>>>>> score screens? As well, how targeted are the ads? Do you send data to >>>>>>> admob >>>>>>> about the user playing the game that helps them target ads? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 6:50 AM, Ahmed majaat <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> try this, >>>>>>>> http://www.aditic.com/demo, it may helps you to improve your CTR >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> Revenue. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> They have more ad formats, splashscreen, interstial, 2/3 banner, >>>>>>>> strech banner and more for Android. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Just for your information I used intro/splashscreen Banner and >>>>>>>> retractable banner, my CTR is around 0.67. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ahmed, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mar 16, 2:22 am, Wayne Wenthin <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> > There is AdWhirl that will allow you to serve up from different >>>>>>>> providers. >>>>>>>> > I have not tried it yet but since I have both admob, which was >>>>>>>> doing very >>>>>>>> > well for me, and Mobclix I may try to do them both. I found it >>>>>>>> interesting >>>>>>>> > that while keeping the ad rotation interval the same between the >>>>>>>> two I was >>>>>>>> > serving around 30K impression with mobclix and about 17K with >>>>>>>> admob. >>>>>>>> > My CTR on admob was significantly higher. Now that I switched >>>>>>>> back to admob >>>>>>>> > I found a "glitch" that I had not noticed before and wonder if my >>>>>>>> mobclix >>>>>>>> > CTR could have been better. Its actually encouraging to know >>>>>>>> that at >>>>>>>> > least some money is being made out there. I racked up 48 bucks >>>>>>>> for the >>>>>>>> > last week in january and have about twice as many users now so I'm >>>>>>>> waiting >>>>>>>> > to see if my glitch has been fixed. Now another topic that would >>>>>>>> fun to >>>>>>>> > discuss is how the heck do you get users to update?! >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Moto <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> > > Yes, I believe this very much concerns developers because most >>>>>>>> of the >>>>>>>> > > time, based on this revenue, it is what makes a developer want >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> > > continue developing... >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > Yahel, I also believe that applications shouldn't abuse the user >>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>> > > ads. I believe that ads should be carefully placed to flow with >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> > > application. That's what I do currently. My current CTR is >>>>>>>> really >>>>>>>> > > low. 0.05% and I'm still making on avg $150 per day. The app's >>>>>>>> got >>>>>>>> > > around 60,000 users... and I use Quattro Wireless... >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > Now my apps CTR seems low cause we request an add on every >>>>>>>> activity >>>>>>>> > > and this lowers our effectiveness to display ads, that's why the >>>>>>>> low >>>>>>>> > > CTR. So I'm looking at better ways to improve it... Like I >>>>>>>> asked >>>>>>>> > > possibly using 2 different ad agencies. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > -Moto >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > On Mar 15, 5:02 pm, Yahel <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> > > > Sorry John but I do not agree. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > Android Discuss seems there to discuss any general Android >>>>>>>> topic : The >>>>>>>> > > > device or it's use, not developer stuff. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > This ads thing does only concern developers, doesn't it ? >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > Yahel >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > -- >>>>>>>> > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>> Google >>>>>>>> > > Groups "Android Developers" group. >>>>>>>> > > To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>> > > [email protected]<android-developers%[email protected]> >>>>>>>> <android-developers%[email protected]<android-developers%[email protected]> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>> > >http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > -- >>>>>>>> > Writing code is one of few things >>>>>>>> > that teaches me I don't know everything. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Make Call Girl Manager great! 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