If it is just a hobby and you make a few hundred, even just a few thousand dollars/euro a year, don't worry about it. Even if you had to register in the UK and you failed to do so, do you really think the British tax service will come after you?
If you make a living of it, make substantial money from selling apps, then you really should consider consulting proper legal and financial counsel to cover all the bases. On Thursday, May 31, 2012 8:07:37 AM UTC-4, Terry wrote: > > > You should really talk to > > your local tax authorities and perhaps even legal council about this > than > > just people guessing on/talking how it is in their country on a mailing > > list. > > So what you are saying, is that these TAX/VAT issues are too complex > to be discussed here - with fellow developers - and that each of us > should consult tax authorities and legal council in order to continue > developing Android apps - even as a hobby, for fun or pleasure? > > I am afraid that you are right, and that each of us has to register > for VAT in at least every EU country. > I am also afraid that this will not happen. > > Terry > > > > > On 31 Mai, 11:48, David Olsson <[email protected]> wrote: > > The VAT stuff is also depending on your country. You should really talk > to > > your local tax authorities and perhaps even legal council about this > than > > just people guessing on/talking how it is in their country on a mailing > > list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 8:38 AM, Terry <[email protected]> wrote: > > > After googling a bit for VAT Threshold, I soon found the following: > > > > > VAT registration threshold removed for non UK-established companies > > > > > From 1st December 2012, the VAT registration threshold for companies > > > which are not established in the UK will be removed. This means that > > > all businesses making taxable supplies within the UK must register for > > > VAT, regardless of the amounts involved. Many other EU states operate > > > a similar policy for businesses not established in their countries. > > > This change may have an impact on overseas businesses making one-off > > > supplies to the UK market. > > > > > Terry > > > > > On 30 Mai, 21:37, Streets Of Boston <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I'm not sure how to handle it. But google "VAT Threshold" or "BTW > > > Drempel" > > > > and such and you'll see that the minimum amount you need to reach > before > > > > you must register for VAT it is quite high (*thousands *of dollars). > If > > > you > > > > sell apps as a hobby, I won't worry too much about reporting VAT for > > > > customers abroad. Note that if you don't register, you can' claim > VAT > > > back > > > > either... > > > > > > On Wednesday, May 30, 2012 3:25:34 PM UTC-4, Terry wrote: > > > > > > > >E.g. I'm from Massachusetts and I have to collect taxes from > customers > > > > > from > > > > > >MA. I then have to pay that taxes to the government. It is my > > > > > >responsibility. I can get a sales report from Google and figure > out > > > what > > > > > >sales taxes i have to submit to the state and what income taxes > to > > > submit > > > > > >to the federal and state government. Google does not pay the > taxes for > > > > > me. > > > > > > > >You are selling stuff. It is a business and it comes with > business > > > > > >processes such as paying income and sales taxes. > > > > > > > OK. I can also handle local/national sales tax (VAT). > > > > > (And let us forget income tax here, That is appliccable to all, > and it > > > > > has not changed.) > > > > > But HOW do I get to know about the VAT of all the other countries > I > > > > > sell apps to, and their thresholds for paying tax/VAT? > > > > > What about the VAT I have collected, which lies below the > threshold of > > > > > a partciular country? Can I keep it? > > > > > OR- if I have not charged any VAT in a country, can they still > charge > > > > > me for the VAT that they claim I SHOULD HAVE collected? > > > > > > > Regardless of how one looke at this, this is obviously NOT GOING > TO > > > > > WORK. > > > > > I guess that lots of us deveopers will NOT be able to handle this > > > > > properly. > > > > > > > How does APPLE handle this? > > > > > > > Regards, Terry > > > > > > > On 30 Mai, 20:24, Streets Of Boston <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > My understanding is that Google is not your dealer. It is your > agent > > > and > > > > > > payment processor. It's a market not a store. You were and will > be > > > > > > responsible for paying taxes, before this change to Google Play > and > > > > > after > > > > > > this change to Google Play. Nothing changed here. > > > > > > > > E.g. I'm from Massachusetts and I have to collect taxes from > > > customers > > > > > from > > > > > > MA. I then have to pay that taxes to the government. It is my > > > > > > responsibility. I can get a sales report from Google and figure > out > > > what > > > > > > sales taxes i have to submit to the state and what income taxes > to > > > > > submit > > > > > > to the federal and state government. Google does not pay the > taxes > > > for > > > > > me. > > > > > > > > You are selling stuff. It is a business and it comes with > business > > > > > > processes such as paying income and sales taxes. > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, May 30, 2012 1:50:31 PM UTC-4, Terry wrote: > > > > > > > > > On 30 Mai, 19:09, Streets Of Boston <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Generally, yes. If you sell stuff you need to pay taxes > (sales > > > > > > > taxes/VAT) > > > > > > > > on it. > > > > > > > > > Yes. But until recently, when goods were sold from one country > to > > > > > > > another, there was no VAT. > > > > > > > Is that no longer true? > > > > > > > > > If not, shall every Android developer keep track of which > country > > > > > > > requires VAT to be included - and which country does not - > when > > > goods > > > > > > > are being sold from another/particular country? > > > > > > > > > > But If you are not selling more than a certain dollar (or > other > > > > > > > currency) > > > > > > > > amount to users in a given country, don't expect a taxman to > > > bang on > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > door trying to collect from you.Only after a certain > threshold > > > you > > > > > are > > > > > > > > required to pay taxes. > > > > > > > > > WHO is goind to keep track of such tresholds? Each developer? > > > > > > > > > I thought that it was the DEALER (i.e. Google) who should be > > > > > > > responsible for collecting/paying taxes, and not each > contributor/ > > > > > > > developer? > > > > > > > > > This may be the end of the Google Play Store. > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > Groups "Android Developers" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to > [email protected] > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > [email protected] > > > For more options, visit this group at > > >http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
