> You should really talk to > your local tax authorities and perhaps even legal council about this than > just people guessing on/talking how it is in their country on a mailing > list.
So what you are saying, is that these TAX/VAT issues are too complex to be discussed here - with fellow developers - and that each of us should consult tax authorities and legal council in order to continue developing Android apps - even as a hobby, for fun or pleasure? I am afraid that you are right, and that each of us has to register for VAT in at least every EU country. I am also afraid that this will not happen. Terry On 31 Mai, 11:48, David Olsson <[email protected]> wrote: > The VAT stuff is also depending on your country. You should really talk to > your local tax authorities and perhaps even legal council about this than > just people guessing on/talking how it is in their country on a mailing > list. > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 8:38 AM, Terry <[email protected]> wrote: > > After googling a bit for VAT Threshold, I soon found the following: > > > VAT registration threshold removed for non UK-established companies > > > From 1st December 2012, the VAT registration threshold for companies > > which are not established in the UK will be removed. This means that > > all businesses making taxable supplies within the UK must register for > > VAT, regardless of the amounts involved. Many other EU states operate > > a similar policy for businesses not established in their countries. > > This change may have an impact on overseas businesses making one-off > > supplies to the UK market. > > > Terry > > > On 30 Mai, 21:37, Streets Of Boston <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I'm not sure how to handle it. But google "VAT Threshold" or "BTW > > Drempel" > > > and such and you'll see that the minimum amount you need to reach before > > > you must register for VAT it is quite high (*thousands *of dollars). If > > you > > > sell apps as a hobby, I won't worry too much about reporting VAT for > > > customers abroad. Note that if you don't register, you can' claim VAT > > back > > > either... > > > > On Wednesday, May 30, 2012 3:25:34 PM UTC-4, Terry wrote: > > > > > >E.g. I'm from Massachusetts and I have to collect taxes from customers > > > > from > > > > >MA. I then have to pay that taxes to the government. It is my > > > > >responsibility. I can get a sales report from Google and figure out > > what > > > > >sales taxes i have to submit to the state and what income taxes to > > submit > > > > >to the federal and state government. Google does not pay the taxes for > > > > me. > > > > > >You are selling stuff. It is a business and it comes with business > > > > >processes such as paying income and sales taxes. > > > > > OK. I can also handle local/national sales tax (VAT). > > > > (And let us forget income tax here, That is appliccable to all, and it > > > > has not changed.) > > > > But HOW do I get to know about the VAT of all the other countries I > > > > sell apps to, and their thresholds for paying tax/VAT? > > > > What about the VAT I have collected, which lies below the threshold of > > > > a partciular country? Can I keep it? > > > > OR- if I have not charged any VAT in a country, can they still charge > > > > me for the VAT that they claim I SHOULD HAVE collected? > > > > > Regardless of how one looke at this, this is obviously NOT GOING TO > > > > WORK. > > > > I guess that lots of us deveopers will NOT be able to handle this > > > > properly. > > > > > How does APPLE handle this? > > > > > Regards, Terry > > > > > On 30 Mai, 20:24, Streets Of Boston <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > My understanding is that Google is not your dealer. It is your agent > > and > > > > > payment processor. It's a market not a store. You were and will be > > > > > responsible for paying taxes, before this change to Google Play and > > > > after > > > > > this change to Google Play. Nothing changed here. > > > > > > E.g. I'm from Massachusetts and I have to collect taxes from > > customers > > > > from > > > > > MA. I then have to pay that taxes to the government. It is my > > > > > responsibility. I can get a sales report from Google and figure out > > what > > > > > sales taxes i have to submit to the state and what income taxes to > > > > submit > > > > > to the federal and state government. Google does not pay the taxes > > for > > > > me. > > > > > > You are selling stuff. It is a business and it comes with business > > > > > processes such as paying income and sales taxes. > > > > > > On Wednesday, May 30, 2012 1:50:31 PM UTC-4, Terry wrote: > > > > > > > On 30 Mai, 19:09, Streets Of Boston <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > Generally, yes. If you sell stuff you need to pay taxes (sales > > > > > > taxes/VAT) > > > > > > > on it. > > > > > > > Yes. But until recently, when goods were sold from one country to > > > > > > another, there was no VAT. > > > > > > Is that no longer true? > > > > > > > If not, shall every Android developer keep track of which country > > > > > > requires VAT to be included - and which country does not - when > > goods > > > > > > are being sold from another/particular country? > > > > > > > > But If you are not selling more than a certain dollar (or other > > > > > > currency) > > > > > > > amount to users in a given country, don't expect a taxman to > > bang on > > > > > > your > > > > > > > door trying to collect from you.Only after a certain threshold > > you > > > > are > > > > > > > required to pay taxes. > > > > > > > WHO is goind to keep track of such tresholds? Each developer? > > > > > > > I thought that it was the DEALER (i.e. Google) who should be > > > > > > responsible for collecting/paying taxes, and not each contributor/ > > > > > > developer? > > > > > > > This may be the end of the Google Play Store. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "Android Developers" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected] > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
