What do you mean by saying thet "the video you linked to is pretty 
offensive."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MXUO0-lhbY

- are *you *offended by the video?
- is the video offensive because someone may call the app that is shown a 
"PUA"?
- is the video offensive because someone may NOT call it a "PUA"?
- is the video offensive because it shows that e.g. a Sophos antivirus app 
may be used for spying purposes?
(I guess that you know that *anti-spy* apps list it - and most other 
anti-virus apps with anti-theft features - as a potential spy app?)

Terry





On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 4:04:50 PM UTC+2, Kristopher Micinski wrote:
>
> FYI the video you linked to is pretty offensive... 
>
> Kris 
>
>
> On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 4:45 AM, Terry <[email protected] <javascript:>> 
> wrote: 
> > Most of the past two months I have spent trying to get various 
> publishers of 
> > antivirus software and apps to remove my app from their lists of 
> malware. 
> > Which was much harder than I thought it would be. Execpt for a few apps, 
> the 
> > lists of malware seem to be more based on hear-say than facts. And when 
> an 
> > antivirus software had got a “malicious” app on its list in the first 
> place, 
> > it would not let it go without a fight. It seemed as if some publishers 
> of 
> > antivirus apps were saying that ”we have made up out mind, so don’t 
> confuse 
> > us with facts”. As a representative of AVG wrote to me: ”In any case we 
> are 
> > not removing the detection for this app“. 
> > 
> > Anyway; I finally got most of the antivirus apps that once had listed my 
> app 
> > as malware to remove it from their list of malware. 
> > 
> > Of the antivirus apps/softwares that once listed my app as a threat on 
> > VirusTotal, the following have now removed it from their list of 
> threats: 
> > 
> > - AhnLab 
> > 
> > - AntiVir 
> > 
> > - Baidu-International 
> > 
> > - BitDefender 
> > 
> > - Eset 
> > 
> > - ForeSafe (removed it from their Android App, is not included on 
> > VirusTotal) 
> > 
> > - Ikarus 
> > 
> > - Qihuu-360 
> > 
> > - QuickHeal (removed it from their Android App, is not included on 
> > VirusTotal) 
> > 
> > - Trustlook (removed it from their “Antivurs Security” Android App, not 
> > included on VirusTotal) 
> > 
> > - Vipre 
> > 
> > 
> > Please see: 
> > 
> > 
> https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/6346c6f089551b8d3de3ef80d44134dcbc1fb3dc5e7d1df44a0b19a6bba490cc/analysis/1400573103/
>  
> > 
> > 
> > Of those AntiVirus softwares that still list my app on VirusTotal; 
> > 
> > - Avast has changed its characterization from a Trojan to a PUP 
> > 
> > - Kaspersky lists it as a PUP (“not-a-virus”) 
> > 
> > - Sophos say they “cannot remove it, as it is a PUA” 
> > 
> > - Gdata does not list it as a threat in their Android “Internet 
> Security” 
> > app, but still does on VirusTotal 
> > 
> > - Avast and McAfee have still not responded to my removal requests 
> > 
> > - McAfee does currently not list in on their Android antivirus app 
> > 
> > So; Currently no antivirus app lists it as a VIRUS, but THREE (of 53) 
> show 
> > an unclear characterization. 
> > 
> > If the listings of my app being a PUP/PUA refers to the possibility to 
> abuse 
> > such an Anti-Theft app to get to location of the user of the phone, ALL 
> > Anti-Theft have the same features – and much more. Inclusive most of the 
> > antivirus apps themselves. E.g. see 
> > 
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MXUO0-lhbY 
> > 
> > And all of those apps have NOT been removed. 
> > 
> > With this documentation, I wrote an email to Google Play Support., with 
> an 
> > appeal to reinstate my app. I also went through all of its features in 
> > detail, showing that it must be the most innocent of all anti-theft 
> apps. 
> > 
> > As my app is neither a virus nor a spy app, I assumed that it was 
> removed by 
> > a mistake, and so I hoped that it would be reinstated. 
> > 
> > But Google did not even bother to send me a reply. 
> > 
> > A few years back I was very enthusiastic about Android apps and Google. 
> Not 
> > any more. I am extremely disappointed with Google. They seem to handle 
> us 
> > app developers extremely haphazard, badly, and unfairly. Regarding their 
> > Policies for developers, Google is both acting as lawmaker, police, 
> > prosecuting authority, judge and executioner. 
> > 
> > Needless to say, I am not very fond of Google any more. 
> > 
> > I hope that someone within Google is reading this, and who is willing to 
> > look into this case. I can provide all info required, including the 
> source 
> > code of the app in question. 
> > 
> > Terry 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 7:24:58 AM UTC+1, Terry wrote: 
> >> 
> >> Google has removed my app from the Play Store. 
> >> 
> >> Now I would like to know WHY. 
> >> 
> >> The Reason for Removal was "Dangerous Product". 
> >> 
> >> The app is the free "Theif Face Trap Mini", or TFTM, with 
> >> id=com.terboel.tftm 
> >> 
> >> For those who would have a look at it, it can still be found at various 
> >> places, e.g. at the 1Mobile Market. 
> >> 
> >> Regards, Terry 
> >> 
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