@Tseng: I can't find this method - are you talking about class
Activity ?

So, let me get this straight: there are just two possible ways to
setResult():

 - Either: setResult() in your change listeners after data (even the
slightest bit) changes in your activity
 - Or: present a dedicated GUI element (menu entry, button or sth) to
end the activity; setResult() and finish() in its activate listener

*sigh* Both ways have reasonable drawbacks ... I will have to think
about which way suits me most :(


On Mar 5, 3:28 am, Dianne Hackborn <hack...@android.com> wrote:
> You can call it a design flaw, but the design is that at the point you say
> to finish your activity, the current result is bundled up and delivered, and
> than we go through the normal pause etc flow to transition from that
> activity to the previous.  At this point in time this just isn't going to
> change.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 6:20 AM, Chronos <g358279012044...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for your input ;)
>
> > I'm also discussing this with my colleagues - and I consider this
> > either a bug or a design flaw...
> > onPause() should be guaranteed to run before onActivityResult() - in
> > more detail: setResult() in onPause() should have an effect in
> > onActivityResult().
>
> > On Mar 4, 3:03 pm, Stoyan Damov <stoyan.da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > So you really don't want to *return*, hence the setResult() isn't
> > > appropriate in your case. You just want to communicate something back
> > > to the parent activity, is that right? In this case you want to use a
> > > broadcast receiver.
>
> > > Cheers
>
> > > On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Chronos <g358279012044...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > >> You should set the result when your child activity is about to exit -
> > > >> for example I set the result from my child activity when a button is
> > > >> clicked and just before exiting it, e.g.:
>
> > > >> // in a button click handler
> > > >> setResult(...);
> > > >> finish();
>
> > > > This is the way they do it in the samples, but it makes not much sense
> > > > - I don't want to have an "exit" or "save" button; users should be
> > > > able to hit "back" (listening for "back" is my current workaround, but
> > > > it will probably fail under certain circumstances).
>
> > > >> The documentation for Activity mentions that "When an activity exits,
> > > >> it can call setResult(int)  to return data back to its parent."
>
> > > > Yes - it says so. But it doesn't say WHEN - this is my problem; I
> > > > don't know when to setResult efficiently: onPause() doesn't work,
> > > > onSaveInstanceState() doesn't work; listening for "back" ain't
> > > > failproof; listening for data changes is ineffective. *sigh*
>
> > > >> When you're getting a NPE what does you stacktrace look like?
>
> > > > Nevermind the NPE - it comes from RESULT_CANCELLED and Intent.getExtras
> > > > () returning null.
>
> > > >> btw, you shouldn't assume that the parent activity will outlive the
> > > >> child one - that is, the fact that your parent activity has spawned
> > > >> another one for result doesn't mean it won't be destroyed should the
> > > >> system need to destroy it because it's not in the foreground.
>
> > > > Yes, I don't.
>
> > > > On Mar 4, 1:58 pm, Stoyan Damov <stoyan.da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Chronos <g358279012044...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > >> > Thanks for the idea - but this is not my problem: the result sent is
> > > >> > the result I set in the onCreate method (a default result); if I
> > fail
> > > >> > to do this, I will get a java.lang.NullPointerException, which
> > > >> > underlines my point - setResult() in onPause() is too late; my
> > > >> > activity is not cancelled either - I always get an
> > Activity.RESULT_OK.
>
> > > >> You should set the result when your child activity is about to exit -
> > > >> for example I set the result from my child activity when a button is
> > > >> clicked and just before exiting it, e.g.:
>
> > > >> // in a button click handler
> > > >> setResult(...);
> > > >> finish();
>
> > > >> The documentation for Activity mentions that "When an activity exits,
> > > >> it can call setResult(int)  to return data back to its parent."
>
> > > >> When you're getting a NPE what does you stacktrace look like?
>
> > > >> > Do you think, onPause() is the correct point to setResult() ? It
> > seems
> > > >> > to me, that the result has already been transmitted in some
> > > >> > communication queue at this point - all calls to setResult() are in
> > > >> > vain.
>
> > > >> btw, you shouldn't assume that the parent activity will outlive the
> > > >> child one - that is, the fact that your parent activity has spawned
> > > >> another one for result doesn't mean it won't be destroyed should the
> > > >> system need to destroy it because it's not in the foreground.
>
> > > >> > On Mar 4, 12:39 pm, Stoyan Damov <stoyan.da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> >> Actually read carefullyhttp://
> > developer.android.com/reference/android/app/Activity.html#star...)
>
> > > >> >> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Stoyan Damov <
> > stoyan.da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> >> > Re:
>
> > > >> >> > - setResult() in client.onPause() is called TOO LATE; the result
> > has
> > > >> >> > already been transmitted to the parent (although the method
> > > >> >> > client.onPause() seems to be called in time).
>
> > > >> >> > If the result has been already set, this means that the result
> > value
> > > >> >> > is CANCELLED immediately after your child activity started.
> > > >> >> > Read carefully about the launchMode property -
>
> >http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/manifest/activity-element.h...
>
> > > >> >> > Cheers
>
> > > >> >> > On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 12:59 PM,Chronos<
> > g358279012044...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > >> >> >> Hello there ;)
>
> > > >> >> >> I have some - maybe simple - problem; unfortunately I cannot
> > find a
> > > >> >> >> solution:
>
> > > >> >> >> I have two activities which communicate via:
> > startActivityForResult(),
> > > >> >> >> setResult(), onActivityResult. I will call the first activity
> > "parent"
> > > >> >> >> and the second one "client", although this may not be
> > technically
> > > >> >> >> correct; so the order of calls must be:
>
> > > >> >> >> parent.startActivityForResult()
> > > >> >> >> client.setResult()
> > > >> >> >> parent.onActivityResult()
>
> > > >> >> >> Now, where should I call setResult in the client activity ?
>
> > > >> >> >> I have already tried various possibilities which have all
> > failed:
>
> > > >> >> >>  - setResult() in client.onPause() is called TOO LATE; the
> > result has
> > > >> >> >> already been transmitted to the parent (although the method
> > > >> >> >> client.onPause() seems to be called in time).
> > > >> >> >>  - client.onSaveInstanceState() is not guaranteed to be called
> > at all
> > > >> >> >> (and the documentation hints at the same timing problem).
> > > >> >> >>  - The only TECHNICALLY POSSIBLE solution seems to implement a
> > change-
> > > >> >> >> listener for any screen element and set the result there. This
> > may
> > > >> >> >> work in theory, but is NOT VIABLE in practice: (1) it is
> > strenuous and
> > > >> >> >> error-prone for activities with many elements; (2) it gets even
> > more
> > > >> >> >> complicated, when side-effects kick in (change one field in
> > dependency
> > > >> >> >> to another); (3) it is really slow, since one must write ALL
> > contents
> > > >> >> >> any time, a SINGLE element changes (and the generic Intent
> > > >> >> >> communication is already slow by design).
>
> > > >> >> >> To me, it would seem most natural to overload the onPause()
> > method and
> > > >> >> >> setResult() there - once and for all. There MUST be some easier
> > way
> > > >> >> >> than implementing zounds of listeners ...
>
> > > >> >> >> Am I overlooking something ? Another listener I haven't stumbled
> > over
> > > >> >> >> yet ? Please prove me wrong ;)
>
> --
> Dianne Hackborn
> Android framework engineer
> hack...@android.com
>
> Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to
> provide private support.  All such questions should be posted on public
> forums, where I and others can see and answer them.
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