I'll respond to most of your points in turn, but in general you should keep in mind that Android isn't "done". There are still lots of thing we plan to do, would like to do, and are thinking about doing. Thanks for taking the time to provide this feedback.
> 1) There's no way to dialog on ratings. Even in a stupid web blog the > author is allowed to comment in a discussion. Ratings should be more > like discussions. Lots of sites do this well, there's no need to > reinvent the wheel. This seems like a reasonable request that would he helpful for users and developers. I haven't thought about all the implications, but its something we could consider putting in the roadmap. > 2) There's no way to remove the ratings from dumb shills for other > products who trash your product. I'm a bit skeptical of this. How do you prevent developers from just removing all the bad ratings? How do you identify a "dumb shill"? > 3) There's no way to see ratings that are declared as Spam. I'd like > to see what's getting marked as Spam in case it's the same shills > pushing their own products marking good reviews as Spam. This seems like it would be useful, again, need to think about any possible downsides to this. > 4) The score includes all those dumb shills so the star score is > consistently low and the product will always languish. If you can eliminate the ratings of the "dumb shills" then this no longer becomes an issue, but see concerns about (2). > 5) We still don't have .33 for our phones. I can't mark something as > Spam yet nor even see what's for sale on Market. This should have been > ready when it rolled to users. Or at least tell us WHEN it will be > ready. This 'coming soon' stuff doesn't do much for me. I can understand your frustration, however if you're an application developer, you don't really need an ADP1, unless you live outside geographies where retail Android devices are available. Retail devices allow you to do all the necessary debugging for applications. Again, I can understand your frustration about the lag here, and I think ideally we'd like to release these simultaneously, but there are some obstacles to this currently. Hopefully we'll be able to clear these in the future. > 6) All google lookups for doc go to the old doc site. Can't you at > least upgrade your references in search to go to the new doc? I assume you mean searches on google.com for Android content. The Android team has no control over the Google search engine, and we would never want to interfere with it. As far as I'm aware all content from code.google.com/android has had redirects added to it to take users to developer.android.com. > 7) There's no way to post an update for a non-free product! Wtf is > that? That's ok if you're producing the typical dumb iPhone flash game > but for a real product? Of course there is a way to post updates to a product. I don't understand what you mean here. > 8) There's still a huge black hole in the dev for bluetooth, as well > as a bunch of missing documentation for more kernel-related stuff. Bluetooth API support has been previously stated to be coming, so, nothing new to report here. android-internals is probably a better venue for discussing kernel development, but I believe our platform- level code is as well document as our API-level code, which is quite good. > 9) The web interface for market is miserable. Why can't we see all the > apps there? Why don't we have the same set of controls we do from the > phone along with a discussion/blog for ratings. The Market doesn't have a web interface. I assume you're referring to http://www.android.com/market/ which isn't meant to be a Market interface, but rather a space to highlight applications. Having a web interface for Market is a common request and as this seems to benefit all, I imagine it something we'll add at some point. > 10) Adding a more serious set of rich-text info (with maybe a picture > or two) as a hyperlink from market would be easy and really great for > developers. 325 plaintext characters doesn't do much for anyone. I'm sure this is something we've considered. Since this is not available today I assume there are some concerns here or it is simply something we haven't implemented yet. On the other hand, brevity is an asset and we do provide a URL field where you can (and should) provide more information about your product. Cheers, Justin Android Team @ Google On Mar 10, 6:26 am, markz <[email protected]> wrote: > I've developed for a bunch of platforms and I'm starting to get a bit > frustrated with Android/Google. It seems like you didn't quite think > things through for developers. > > 1) There's no way to dialog on ratings. Even in a stupid web blog the > author is allowed to comment in a discussion. Ratings should be more > like discussions. Lots of sites do this well, there's no need to > reinvent the wheel. > > 2) There's no way to remove the ratings from dumb shills for other > products who trash your product. > > 3) There's no way to see ratings that are declared as Spam. I'd like > to see what's getting marked as Spam in case it's the same shills > pushing their own products marking good reviews as Spam. > > 4) The score includes all those dumb shills so the star score is > consistently low and the product will always languish. > > 5) We still don't have .33 for our phones. I can't mark something as > Spam yet nor even see what's for sale on Market. This should have been > ready when it rolled to users. Or at least tell us WHEN it will be > ready. This 'coming soon' stuff doesn't do much fo rme. > > 6) All google lookups for doc go to the old doc site. Can't you at > least upgrade your references in search to go to the new doc? > > 7) There's no way to post an update for a non-free product! Wtf is > that? That's ok if you're producing the typical dumb iPhone flash game > but for a real product? > > 8) There's still a huge black hole in the dev for bluetooth, as well > as a bunch of missing documentation for more kernel-related stuff. > > 9) The web interface for market is miserable. Why can't we see all the > apps there? Why don't we have the same set of controls we do from the > phone along with a discussion/blog for ratings. > > 10) Adding a more serious set of rich-text info (with maybe a picture > or two) as a hyperlink from market would be easy and really great for > developers. 325 plaintext characters doesn't do much for anyone. > > For what it's worth - finding this group is hard. The new developer > help page that gets to communities is a mess. > > Mark --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
