But Al Sutton is just a guy. I want a response from Google. They seem to have no strategy whatsoever with regards to the market and seem to be completely ignoring independent developers.
The whole market situation is a giant clusterfuck. It's horribly buggy, it's closed-source and we have an extremely limited way of receiving payments, a way which is again taxed by Google. Now, they're changing the terms of the market without any explanation, assuming most developers just click "Accept," as we don't have any other choice if we want to be making money. Essentially, I see this as a case of taxation without representation. I'm frustrated with the market/payment situation on a daily basis, as I'm sure many of you are, and this unexplained ToS change is just another way of screwing devs. I'm fed up. Android will only ever be full of gimmicky, worthless applications unless Google give some respect to people who are actually trying to make a professional living off of the market. R On Nov 11, 3:32 pm, Streets Of Boston <[email protected]> wrote: > Chill out! :=) > > To me it looks like a more tight-knit version of their earlier > agreement. > > About the 48hour: > That was already happening, kind-of. I had some refunds that were > about 36 hours after the sale. Am i happy with this long period, no... > but it's nothing new, i think. > > The main changes seem to come regarding (involuntary) takedowns of > your application (e.g. copyright infringement, legal issues with your > app, etc). See Al' post in 'Discussion' about that. > > On Nov 11, 3:09 pm, Rich <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Is nobody from Google going to chime in on any of these threads? > > > This is a total fucking farce if you ask me, just another example of > > Google not giving any respect to the development community. They're > > already taxing us, and now they're changing the rules, upping the > > refund period and holding us responsible for refunds? Without even > > being decent enough to tell us in plain english? What a joke. > > > R > > > On Nov 11, 3:16 am, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > This is being discussed on -discuss and I believe that the changes > > > can't be enforced until they've complied with section 14.1 (in both > > > new and old agreements) of the agreement which states; > > > > "14.1 Google may make changes to this Agreement at any time by sending > > > the Developer notice by email describing the modifications made...." > > > > Al. > > > > The -discuss thread is > > > athttp://groups.google.co.uk/group/android-discuss/browse_thread/thread... > > > > On 11 Nov, 06:49, dan raaka <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > It will be good to see the diff between the old and the new one. > > > > > -Dan > > > > > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Rich <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I don't speak legalese, I speak code!.. What is the TL;DR of this? > > > > > What am I agreeing to here? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Rich > > > > > > -- > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > > > Groups "Android Developers" group. > > > > > To post to this group, send email to > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > > [email protected]<android-developers%2Bunsubs > > > > > [email protected]> > > > > > For more options, visit this group at > > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en-Hide quoted > > > > >text - > > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
