> > I would guess that at most there is 10 to 15 maybe less Google > > employees in this Android team. > > Sorry, but you have no clue about this.
Well do we have to push you far to have a sneak peak of what is really going on inside google's quarters :D Don't be sorry, you are right I had no clue, that's exactly why I gave what I hoped was a very low count just to have someone react :) > > I don't think you really have an idea of what all is involved in making such > a product Oh believe me I do and I have a lot of empathy, I swear :) >>When you out the two spoke-persons >>you're only left with Romain and Dianne :D > Also, Romain and I are not spoke-persons. Sorry I think you misread me or that my english sucks more than I thought(I vote for the later), I meant that you are the only two engineers left in the team if we take out the two spoke-persons of the team. >We take our spare time to spend > on this group. And I assure you that this does not goes under the radar. We notice it and we really appreciate it. That's why I cited your names as some kind of weird aknowledgement. >I can't hold it against an engineer for not posting here. Well you can't but we can. You engineers are the one making things happening. You know the ins and outs of the beast, we don't. We have to guess using the documentation(sigh) you provide. When you give advice or definitive answers here, it really helps. I think that is the limit of a commercial company working on open source. Since the team is payed to work on it and it's not written in their contract they should help the community, most just don't because it is more work. Having to explain thing to us Android Illiterates seems like a burden and I understand that. And again that's why I, among other really really appreciate your presence here. >> I would have loved to see the despair in the eyes of Romain Guy or > No, that is not how it works. Again just teasing here to try to get an answer, but Xavier said it in the current last message of this thread : "We're trying to make the layout editor usable". Layout editor which is present from day one in the eclipse framework. You have to admit that it feels to us rushed out the door. And I was just hopelessly trying to make up a good excuses...Bosses are always a good excuse :D > unreasonable to complain like this about something you are not >paying > anything for. You do realize that with no easy tools to work on the Framework you would have no developpers at all filling the Market with crapwares ? Beside to be honest, I'd rather pay $200 for a software that works with no glitches, and have support and bugs fixed quickly by a dedicated team, than no service at all and half cooked software that will probably "someday" be fixed. Although to be completely fair with the developer tools team, I never had a problem with this part of Android. I actually find it pretty stable. Let's make it clear because I intend to stay : I love Android, i love the idea behind Android, I love small startrek devices that knows your friends, your location, can make calls, take photos and videos, share them from where ever we are, tell you what that building is, find your way home(or away from home :), sing you songs while recording the pace at wich you run....You get the idea !! I believe it is only a communication problem. We can't get in touch with the Android Team, so the Android team should make it part of their daily job to get in touch with us. A four liner in an Android Developement blog from anyone inside the team feeling like it : "Just finished implementing the buttonview in the new layout editor : Feeewww only 18 more widgets to go". Would make great wonders. you'd get supportive comments and all. Dianne, I promise i'll be your first cheerleader :DDD Keep up the work and keep us posted. Sorry for the length of the answer :s Yahel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
