http://groups.google.com/group/openintents-subversion/browse_thread/thread/d13ecf06593d1cd4/160f00916c194a0d?hl=en&lnk=st&q=OpenIntent+compass#160f00916c194a0d

I can't follow the thread to figure out how he is deriving a compass
heading.



James

On May 19, 6:52 am, Alex Pisarev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As far as I remember, OpenIntent's Sensor Simulator managed to emulate
> compass somehow, however, didn't look details.
>
> Regards,
> Alex
>
> On May 19, 3:33 pm, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > Hi James,
>
> > This is helpful.  Thank you. It is good to know someone is thinking
> > about this. After reading the IEEE abstract, a little clarification on
> > use is always helpful.
>
> > Our applications are eyes free, because the phone should not be
> > competing for those revenue generating resources. So use will happen
> > with the phone stored on the person’s body, say, in a shirt pocket,
> > held to the person's ear, or on their belt.  The compass needs to work
> > no matter how the phone is oriented. The IEEE abstract seemed unclear
> > on how it would work in a handheld device. It would be great for cars,
> > though. With the two accelerometers, there is a calibration routine
> > where a person wears the phone normally and walks in one direction. 10
> > ft should be enough to get enough calibration to be useful. It can
> > recalibrate in the background and alarm or adjust ...
>
> > Sensor Fusion is a new word for me.  Differential sensors of finite
> > resolution have been around for a long time. Consider the roach, or
> > any bug with antennae. They sample air at distant points allowing the
> > organism to select a direction. The longer the antennae, the smaller
> > the gradient the organism can detect with sensors of a fixed
> > resolution. Long antennae help folks figure out what is going on.
> > Sampling acceleration at distant points is going to give you better
> > information on angular velocity and acceleration (how fast you are
> > spinning) than using a single sensor in the same way.
>
> > Thank you for pointing out that radio field interaction can provide
> > information... since a human body can influence that, it is probably
> > good to not rely on that method. Two sensors a fixed distance apart
> > should require little attention and provide good results across many
> > devices once it is engineered.
>
> > My job is to show why it is worthwhile to spend that dollar for
> > pedestrians who don’t read maps. Android has the tools to do that,
> > even in today’s SDK.
>
> > On May 18, 7:48 am, James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > A MEMS chip can be a collection of sensors (temperature, accelerometer
> > > (x,y,z), atmospheric pressure, Hall effect sensor (compass), ...) all
> > > built into the same chip.  In mass production the chip could be
> > > relatively inexpensive.
>
> > >http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/Xplore/login.jsp?url=/iel5/20/35967/017046....
>
> > > However, an Android shortcut would be to use the GPS sensor and your
> > > relative direction of travel to produce a compass bearing over 100
> > > feet of uniform travel.  For each model of cell phone the antenna
> > > sensitivity changes as you rotate the cell phone about a point.  This
> > > could potentially be tied in with relative position movement to
> > > estimate a compass bearing about a point.
>
> > > But as I said, the lookup table would be different for each model of
> > > cell phone.
>
> > > This type of engineering where you take two sensors with low
> > > resolution to combine their results to provide greater resolution is
> > > called "Sensor Fusion".
>
> > > Basically a cell phone antenna signal does NOT have the same signal
> > > profile when you rotate left versus rotate right.  This can be
> > > capitalized upon to determine the relative bearing of which the
> > > compass is facing.  Coupled with the cell phone GPS the relative
> > > bearing can be referenced to the true bearing.  A lookup table can
> > > provide a correction factor and thereby produce Magnetic Bearing; vis
> > > vi Compass.
>
> > > James Dunn
> > > Table of Contents - Similar Insights related to technology
> > > applicationshttp://blog.360.yahoo.com/jamesbdunn?p=207
>
> > > On May 15, 9:23 pm, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > > I have no idea how much a cell phone with a compass costs. I don't see
> > > > why it would be expensive if there were enough of a market to micro
> > > > machine it like all those tiny mirrors. > Who knows these answers?
>
> > > > Thanks,
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