The big problem right now for Android is the IPhone. The IPhone will
go into the 10's of millions of customers very quickly. And everyone
that buys an IPhone is one less person who will not buy an Android
phone. So maybe to sweeten things the OHA will have dirt-cheap phones.
And then target India and China where the IPhone doesn't sell as well
also.

The big thing in all of this will be the Applications. IPhone can get
boring, but if you have a good Application then that changes things.
But it's not really the Applications exactly but the "business
models", etc.

"The "killer apps" of tomorrow's mobile infocom industry won't be
hardware devices or software programs but social practices."

"After a pause to recover from the collapse of the telecommunications
economic bubble of the 1990s, the infrastructure for global, wireless,
Internet-based communication is entering the final stages of
development. The pocket videophone I borrowed in Tokyo was proof that
a high-speed wireless network could link wireless devices and deliver
multimedia to the palm of my hand. The most important next step for
the companies that would deploy this technology and profit from it has
nothing to do with chips or network protocols but everything to do
with business models, early adopters, communities of developers, and
value chains. It's not just about building the tools anymore. Now it's
about what people use the tools to do."

Smart Mobs: The Next Social Revolution, Howard Rheingold, Intro. p. XV


- Juan T.

On Aug 27, 3:39 pm, Tachyon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am frustrated.
>
> I have been adamantly trying to promote the Google Android ideals.  I
> am trying to disseminate what Google is trying to do.  I understand
> their vision, I see their goals.  Why does the rest of the world not?
>
> I have continuously tried to talk about Android, even to many highly
> educated and informed persons, only to find out they are completely
> unaware of what Android is.  A phone, software, hardware, service?
> They have no clue.
>
> I understand that Google is trying to create an open framework, an
> open operating system for mobile devices.  Maybe they are trying to
> tiptoe around the "OS" description for fear of backlash from current
> providers.  I can't explain it.  Google is creating an operating
> system.  The goal of this operating system is to see the mobile market
> adopt a similar approach to the rest of the computing and internet
> industry.  A free system where anybody, with any device, on any
> carrier, using any software, may feel unrestricted.
>
> Mobile carriers for too long have squeezed hard earned dollars out of
> consumer pockets using practices such as text messaging, roaming,
> fees, long distance, feature crippling, proprietary ringtones/music
> systems, etc.
>
> How would a consumer feel today if Apple or Microsoft said, the only
> way you can listen to your music on your home computer is with our
> music service?  What if your internet provider charged you for adding
> a wireless network to your home or plugging in a internet ready
> device?  What if they said you could only use their computers to get
> on their internet with?  What if your landline phone company charged
> you a different price depending on what time if the day you called?
> Bloody Murder, Lawsuit, Kill Them people may shout....
>
> Now imagine.  Imagine that Google has successfully lobbied, marketed,
> and pushed devices to consumers that would be allowed to be connected
> to any wireless network.  Imagine that you can get an unlimited data
> only plan with your mobile device.  Imagine that you could install any
> of a number of VOIP service providers to make your local or long
> distance calls.  Skype, Vonage, etc.  Imagine you pay $40/month for
> your data contract, using built-in messaging/SMS/MMS over any network
> for free, and pay $3/month for unlimited domestic phone calls.
>
> How could this ever be possible?  Google Android.
>
> This seems to be an unbelievable feat to many.  Brainwashed by the
> wireless providers and Apple marketing machine.  Here is a list of the
> misinformation/comments I have heard with my responses.:
>
>     * Google is creating a phone.
>       - Google is creating an operating system and lobbying so that an
> manufacturer will be able to design a phone to use it, just like
> Windows Mobile, LIMO, Symbian, etc.  There will be many phone models
> on many carriers that support the Google Android operating system
>     * I don't want a phone with ads all over it.
>       - Google phone will not have ads, there may be systems developed
> that will allow a cheaper phone if ads are used.  There will be no
> forcing of such a system.
>     * What is Android?
>       - Google is creating an open-source operating system that will
> induce innovation and competition.
>     * Google is just trying to do the same thing as Apple.
>       - Google is creating an open-source operating system that will
> induce innovation and competition.
>     * Google is just trying to do the same thing as Microsoft.
>       - Google is creating an open-source operating system that will
> induce innovation and competition.
>     * Have you read the news? Google software is full of security
> problems and so is these new gadgets.
>       - Google & Apple both use UNIX/Linux for their operating
> systems.
>       - Google took out the Bluetooth API and GTalk API from the SDK
> due to security reasons, they are doing the smart thing
>     * Google Android phone won't be able to use Bluetooth or Google
> Talk
>       - UNTRUE, these devices will support normal use of Bluetooth
> hardware and built-in messaging over the Jabber/Google Talk network.
>       - The programming support for these components will not be
> IMMEDIATELY available due to scheduling and security reasons, expect
> an update to the SDK in the future that will allow support for
> developing software applications for these devices.
>       - The iPhone doesn't have a Bluetooth API either, not that I
> want to follow in those footsteps.
>     * ... I'm sure more to come...
>
> Google, please.  Get this information out there.  Buy some TV ads, do
> something!! People need to understand what you are doing, what you are
> lobbying for, what has already been done.  Shipping that first phone
> is going to help a lot and put the speculation, rumors, and
> misinformation to rest.  I will probably switch to T-Mobile from
> Verizon just to get one of the HTC Dream/G1 phones.  I will do my
> part.  My hacked Motorola Q will be up for sale ;)
>
> Feel free to comment on this post at my 
> website:http://www.djtachyon.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=44...
>
> -=> Tachyon
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