They're just going to sell new Social Practices through Commercials.
Things that the IPhone can't do.


- Juan

On Aug 29, 2:16 pm, jtaylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The big problem right now for Android is the IPhone. The IPhone will
> go into the 10's of millions of customers very quickly. And everyone
> that buys an IPhone is one less person who will not buy an Android
> phone. So maybe to sweeten things the OHA will have dirt-cheap phones.
> And then target India and China where the IPhone doesn't sell as well
> also.
>
> The big thing in all of this will be the Applications. IPhone can get
> boring, but if you have a good Application then that changes things.
> But it's not really the Applications exactly but the "business
> models", etc.
>
> "The "killer apps" of tomorrow's mobile infocom industry won't be
> hardware devices or software programs but social practices."
>
> Smart Mobs: The Next Social Revolution, Howard Rheingold, Intro. p.
> xii
>
> "After a pause to recover from the collapse of the telecommunications
> economic bubble of the 1990s, the infrastructure for global, wireless,
> Internet-based communication is entering the final stages of
> development. The pocket videophone I borrowed in Tokyo was proof that
> a high-speed wireless network could link wireless devices and deliver
> multimedia to the palm of my hand. The most important next step for
> the companies that would deploy this technology and profit from it has
> nothing to do with chips or network protocols but everything to do
> with business models, early adopters, communities of developers, and
> value chains. It's not just about building the tools anymore. Now it's
> about what people use the tools to do."
>
> Smart Mobs: The Next Social Revolution, Howard Rheingold, Intro. p. XV
>
> - Juan T.
>
> On Aug 27, 3:39 pm, Tachyon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I am frustrated.
>
> > I have been adamantly trying to promote the Google Android ideals.  I
> > am trying to disseminate what Google is trying to do.  I understand
> > their vision, I see their goals.  Why does the rest of the world not?
>
> > I have continuously tried to talk about Android, even to many highly
> > educated and informed persons, only to find out they are completely
> > unaware of what Android is.  A phone, software, hardware, service?
> > They have no clue.
>
> > I understand that Google is trying to create an open framework, an
> > open operating system for mobile devices.  Maybe they are trying to
> > tiptoe around the "OS" description for fear of backlash from current
> > providers.  I can't explain it.  Google is creating an operating
> > system.  The goal of this operating system is to see the mobile market
> > adopt a similar approach to the rest of the computing and internet
> > industry.  A free system where anybody, with any device, on any
> > carrier, using any software, may feel unrestricted.
>
> > Mobile carriers for too long have squeezed hard earned dollars out of
> > consumer pockets using practices such as text messaging, roaming,
> > fees, long distance, feature crippling, proprietary ringtones/music
> > systems, etc.
>
> > How would a consumer feel today if Apple or Microsoft said, the only
> > way you can listen to your music on your home computer is with our
> > music service?  What if your internet provider charged you for adding
> > a wireless network to your home or plugging in a internet ready
> > device?  What if they said you could only use their computers to get
> > on their internet with?  What if your landline phone company charged
> > you a different price depending on what time if the day you called?
> > Bloody Murder, Lawsuit, Kill Them people may shout....
>
> > Now imagine.  Imagine that Google has successfully lobbied, marketed,
> > and pushed devices to consumers that would be allowed to be connected
> > to any wireless network.  Imagine that you can get an unlimited data
> > only plan with your mobile device.  Imagine that you could install any
> > of a number of VOIP service providers to make your local or long
> > distance calls.  Skype, Vonage, etc.  Imagine you pay $40/month for
> > your data contract, using built-in messaging/SMS/MMS over any network
> > for free, and pay $3/month for unlimited domestic phone calls.
>
> > How could this ever be possible?  Google Android.
>
> > This seems to be an unbelievable feat to many.  Brainwashed by the
> > wireless providers and Apple marketing machine.  Here is a list of the
> > misinformation/comments I have heard with my responses.:
>
> >     * Google is creating a phone.
> >       - Google is creating an operating system and lobbying so that an
> > manufacturer will be able to design a phone to use it, just like
> > Windows Mobile, LIMO, Symbian, etc.  There will be many phone models
> > on many carriers that support the Google Android operating system
> >     * I don't want a phone with ads all over it.
> >       - Google phone will not have ads, there may be systems developed
> > that will allow a cheaper phone if ads are used.  There will be no
> > forcing of such a system.
> >     * What is Android?
> >       - Google is creating an open-source operating system that will
> > induce innovation and competition.
> >     * Google is just trying to do the same thing as Apple.
> >       - Google is creating an open-source operating system that will
> > induce innovation and competition.
> >     * Google is just trying to do the same thing as Microsoft.
> >       - Google is creating an open-source operating system that will
> > induce innovation and competition.
> >     * Have you read the news? Google software is full of security
> > problems and so is these new gadgets.
> >       - Google & Apple both use UNIX/Linux for their operating
> > systems.
> >       - Google took out the Bluetooth API and GTalk API from the SDK
> > due to security reasons, they are doing the smart thing
> >     * Google Android phone won't be able to use Bluetooth or Google
> > Talk
> >       - UNTRUE, these devices will support normal use of Bluetooth
> > hardware and built-in messaging over the Jabber/Google Talk network.
> >       - The programming support for these components will not be
> > IMMEDIATELY available due to scheduling and security reasons, expect
> > an update to the SDK in the future that will allow support for
> > developing software applications for these devices.
> >       - The iPhone doesn't have a Bluetooth API either, not that I
> > want to follow in those footsteps.
> >     * ... I'm sure more to come...
>
> > Google, please.  Get this information out there.  Buy some TV ads, do
> > something!! People need to understand what you are doing, what you are
> > lobbying for, what has already been done.  Shipping that first phone
> > is going to help a lot and put the speculation, rumors, and
> > misinformation to rest.  I will probably switch to T-Mobile from
> > Verizon just to get one of the HTC Dream/G1 phones.  I will do my
> > part.  My hacked Motorola Q will be up for sale ;)
>
> > Feel free to comment on this post at my 
> > website:http://www.djtachyon.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=44...
>
> > -=> Tachyon
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