Is that the Maps ToS or the Maps API ToS? They are different and the 
ones I quoted are from the API ToS 
(http://code.google.com/apis/maps/terms.html).

Al.

plusminus wrote:
> ###########################
> use the Service or Content with any products, systems, or applications
> for or in
> connection with (a) real time navigation or route guidance based on
> position
> input from a sensor (including but not limited to any visual or
> audible turn-byturn
> route guidance); or (b) any systems or functions for automatic or
> autonomous control of vehicle behavior;
> ###########################
> Imo I'm not violating (a) because I'm just doing static navigation,
> just like the Android-Maps-App does, GPS or any other Sensor is not
> included at any nanosecond during navigation.
> And imo (b) doesn't apply, because it says sth of "automatic" and
> "autonomous" which seems to me like we aren't allowed to build
> autonomous driving killer-androids with the Maps.
>
> On 25 Okt., 11:43, Al Sutton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> Plusminus,
>>
>> As a non-Googleite I can see how you could be in breach of their ToS;
>>
>> Section 2.2 of the Maps API says has a list of things you can't do, and
>> as the last bullet point it has;
>>
>> - remove, distort or alter any element of a Google Brand Feature (this
>> includes squeezing, stretching, inverting, discoloring, etc.).
>>
>> Also, section 1.4 doesn't limit prohbited use to just real time stuff.
>> part (a) says;
>>
>> "(a) real time route guidance (including without limitation,
>> turn-by-turn route guidance and other routing that is enabled through
>> the use of a sensor)"
>>
>> So it's basically prohibiting "turn-by-turn route guidance" as well as
>> "other routing that is enabled through the use of a sensor", not just
>> prohibiting "turn-by-turn route guidance that is enabled through the use
>> of a sensor".
>>
>> Basically I think you're stuffed as far as using the Google Maps API goes.
>>
>> I guess the only options are another data free data source,  paying a
>> license to a map data provider, or paying to construct your own maps so
>> you can give them to everyone else freely :).
>>
>> Al
>>
>>
>>
>> plusminus wrote:
>>     
>>> @Justin
>>> I'm sorry but this ToS-Sequence is totally absurd ! Where is the ....
>>> difference in manually putting it to the side ?
>>> Anything I can do except destroying my Layout o_O ?
>>>       
>>> I'm not violating the ToS with Turn-By-Turn instructions, because they
>>> disallow only real-time, sensor-based route-guidance. Which I'm not
>>> doing. (Better to say "no more doing". I had it done already :( )
>>>       
>>> @Kyle Gordon
>>> Exactly thats the reason why I'm working hard on AndNav2 which builds
>>> on top of OSM-Data :)
>>> Expect it do be public(?)-beta in around 2-4 weeks.
>>>       
>>> On 25 Okt., 10:53, Kyle Gordon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>       
>>>> Justin (Google Employee) wrote:
>>>>         
>>>>> Secondly, you appear to be in violation if the Maps API TOS in another
>>>>> way. You appear to be providing turn-by-turn directions using Google
>>>>> Maps, this is explicitly against the TOS as far as I know
>>>>>           
>>>> Which is why it's suboptimal to rely on commercial organizations giving
>>>> data away for 'free'. I'll be the first to suggestwww.openstreetmap.org
>>>> for data then. It's all licensed under an open license, provides WMS
>>>> Servers, open routing navigation systems, and the data is all yours to
>>>> do what you want with. Whether it's walking maps, cycle maps, driving
>>>> maps, etc... Enjoy :-)
>>>>         
>>>> Kyle
>>>>         
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>>>>         
>> --
>> Al Sutton
>>
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>> T: twitter.com/alsutton
>>     
> >
>   


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