@Alexander Maxwell Thanks for the feedback Alexander. I don't think that rooted phone owners were writing the obnoxious comments because rooted phones can still get copy protected apps. It's only the adp1 owners who are blocked when you copy protect an app.
root access on a G1 is different from an adp1, as far as Market access is concerned. I get this info from a rooted phone owner. I own an adp1. also, free copy protected apps like mine are available to the world, while priced ones are only available to the US owners, therefore, selecting copy protection does not block everybody except the US, therefore the ownership of an adp1 is the only known factor that could explain the observed behavior (i.e., the stopping of the obnoxious comments). It's also possible that Google did something to the accounts of these obnoxious people, or the spam feature for comments kicked in at about the same time, but I know nothing about this and I doubt that any action by Google would have coincided with the change to my apps. The obnoxious comments problem had been going on for months, well before December. > ... Regardless, to > get an ADP phone, one needs to register as an Android developer, something > that is likely less common among the demographics you mention. Google is very open and accept registration requests from virtually everyone. And that's great by me. > Any way you could have me check your copy-protected apps to see if they > install and function correctly? I suppose just the name of something you > have posted to the Market would be enough. my two copy protected apps are free so far, so go ahead and check them out: *Inaugural Address USA 2009* and *Address to Congress Feb 2009*. Your rooted phone should have no problem downloading and copying them. But if you have an adp1 then you can't even see them on the Market. On this and other threads we complain about the security of apps on Android but it looks like the situation is not worst than on the iPhone, a phone designed to be protected and secure but is not so, and apparently is not more secure than Android. My current working hypothesis for many of the vile comments on certain locations, not just on Android Market, is that there are one or more PsyOps going on, and their objectives are both political and economic. Some of these PsyOps have been discovered recently. On Mar 12, 12:50 am, Alexander Maxwell <okthat...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 19:01, sm1 <sergemas...@gmail.com> wrote: > > This means that the offensive and apparently > > immature comments all came from dev phone 1 owners (ADP1) > > This is decidedly _not_ true. I have a rooted phone, as well as a majority > of the people I collaborate with regarding the development of Android's more > advanced features. Even simple things like screenshots and auto-rotate are > hard to implement without having root access, but quite simple with such > permissions. Not to mention the necessity of having the ability to store > caches, etc. on the SD card vs. the limited internal storage. Regardless, to > get an ADP phone, one needs to register as an Android developer, something > that is likely less common among the demographics you mention. > > It is interesting that the comments were reduced as such once you enabled > copy protection, so maybe there is something to the root-access owner > theory. I believe getting root access is likely what many of the > hacker-kiddies would be interested in, same as hacking the iPhone, > downloading cracks, etc. > > > Copy protection (which does not work on rooted phones, btw) > > This is what interested me the most, as I have a rooted phone since the 2nd > day I received the phone (after pre-ordering the first night available > online, since I have an open-source fetish, as well as respect for Google in > general). I have bought around 10 apps so far, returned only 1, since it was > not-functional (I sent an apology letter to the dev, actually, since I felt > bad for returning something of quality). > I am somewhat ashamed to say that I have (including themes for some apps, > widgets, etc.) over 320 apps currently installed, which makes me hesitant to > agree with what you mentioned regarding copy protection on rooted phones. > Any way you could have me check your copy-protected apps to see if they > install and function correctly? I suppose just the name of something you > have posted to the Market would be enough. > > My opinion is that the reason for such a horrid system of > ratings/reviews/comments on the market is multi-fold: > > As far as I am aware, a vast majority of the active Market support from > Google comes from a small group of about 10 employees (Alden, Robin, e...@n, > Bret, Bin, Thom, Christopher, Ash, Zeke, DouglasG), making improvements > harder to implement, as issues would need to be prioritized. The comments > system has to take a backseat to things that more obviously affect Android's > development and stability. > > Also, G1 owners have been used to a Market with only Free apps, and that is > a bit like getting a free sample in a grocery store. No kid will buy the > product, they'll just grab the free food. Asking them if they would like to > buy it would get the same type of comments you mention. > > Any comment system /forum that is [basically] anonymous and unmoderated ends > up the same way, with results such as craigslist has experienced in the > past. > > A few ideas that have been suggested that would be easy to implement, as > well as be a step in the right direction, would be to add, in addition to > "Report as Spam," an option to "Report as Abuse" and the ability to rate the > review. Something possibly even more helpful would be an option to see the > other reviews that the user has posted, and rate the reviewer, or report the > Abuser. The moderation of the Abuser could simply be a temporary ban on > rating apps, while still able to download and install them. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Discuss" group. 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