Thank you Sena. You sum it up pretty well. I wonder why Google did not see the problem with the email client as one worth fixing prior to launch. Too focused on using the phone to extend their Google apps, I think. However, I think the shortcomings are adding up now, with no major fixes since the launch of the G1, now more than eight months. Not a good sign looking forward.
Mike W On Mar 21, 11:10 am, Sena Gbeckor-Kove <[email protected]> wrote: > I find this unsurprising. I spoke with on of my clients (a handset > manufacturer) on this subject. I even recommended that they make sure > to extend their branding onto the handset. The G1 is very much a > Google phone. HTC aren't branding it, the Magic also, the carriers who > take these devices will want to install their own software. A better > mail client for example, better onboard calendaring. > > In my opinion the software that comes on the 'standard' Android build > represents a step backward in functionality. Where's exchanges sync, > syncml decent media player etc. Sony Ericsson aren't going to release > a smartphone with less features than their current devices and an > underpoweredemailclient. Samsung and HTC may want to extend their > TouchFlo 3d and whatever the other one's called onto the new platform > to differentiate. As it is currently I wouldn't spec either of the 2 > HTC phones to my workforce as I'd have to create a new system image or > find some way of provisioning apps to everybody's device while > handling licensing issues. > > Give it 6-9 months > > Nice OS underwhelming devices. > > S > > On 20 Mar 2009, at 21:52, focuser wrote: > > > > > no, at least no from what I can tell from the screenshots above. The > > iPhone like calendar icon says "Calendar", not sure if it's google > > calendar or not. The mail icon says "139 Mailbox", which is > > definitely not gmail. > > > On Mar 20, 1:26 pm, Fred Grott <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Screen shots indicate otherwise friend..Chiana Android, dopod G2 > >> does have > >> Google appps > > >> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 2:45 PM, focuser <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>> This is an old but thoughtful article: > > >>>http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/09/what-google-mus.html > > >>>> There's just one problem: The carriers. A big part of the iPhone's > >>> success is due to Apple's clout, which enabled it, in effect, to > >>> tell AT&T > >>> to sit down and shut up about this or that feature requirement. > >>> Once other > >>> carriers saw the iPhone's success in the United States, they > >>> wanted in on > >>> that action, so Apple was able to dictate terms globally, just as > >>> it had a > >>> year before in the U.S. > > >>>> That's why I predict that Android will soon have as many different > >>> flavors as there are carriers. Some carriers will customize it so > >>> that their > >>> phones can't install any applications other than the ones they > >>> authorize. > >>> Some will modify the operating system to work with one of their > >>> custom > >>> services or another. Some will no doubt cripple it, removing > >>> features that > >>> they consider threatening to their own businesses (like the > >>> ability to run > >>> VoIP apps). > > >>>> And that's their right. Because Android uses the Apache license, > >>>> anyone > >>> is free to take it and customize it to their heart's content, even > >>> if such > >>> customizations are appalling to the open source community. > >>> (There's also no > >>> requirement that customizations be themselves open-sourced for the > >>> benefit > >>> of the whole Android community.) > > >>>> In short order, "Android" will become meaningless to consumers, > >>>> and most > >>> carriers won't even advertise the fact that their phones use the > >>> operating > >>> system. Instead, they'll advertise their phones' features, as they > >>> always > >>> have, and emphasize the benefits of those features to the users. > > >>> This is exactly what's happening in the HTC Magic that will be sold > >>> in China soon. (http://tinyurl.com/d62mzt) There seems no Gmail, > >>> Gtalk or other google branded apps, and not a word about "Android", > >>> even "Google". > > >>> And it has been said that Google apps are removed from the phone > >>> distributed by Orange in France....http://androidforums.com/t- > >>> mobile- > >>> g1/4221-g1-france-orange-no-google-apps.html<http://androidforums.com/t-mobile-%0Ag1/4221-g1-france-orange-no-goog... > > >>> Hope Google has heard about voices like this and is taking some > >>> action > >>> on it.... --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Discuss" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
