Are you referring to the email problem where a large portion of users can't delete messages via imap, or the missing-feature for exchange (or insert-weird-proto-here) isn't supported? Or the one where every other supported platform can manage multiple gmail accounts via the native (or j2me) client, but android can't?
FWIW I'd say the first is a "wtf hasn't this gotten fixed in the past 3 updates??", the last is a showing of how google's android commitment compares to their iphone/bb/se/s60/.. commitment, and the middle can reasonably be said to be a community-will-fix problem. On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 6:28 AM, nonick <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thank you Sena. You sum it up pretty well. I wonder why Google did > not see the problem with the email client as one worth fixing prior to > launch. Too focused on using the phone to extend their Google apps, I > think. However, I think the shortcomings are adding up now, with no > major fixes since the launch of the G1, now more than eight months. > Not a good sign looking forward. > > Mike W > > On Mar 21, 11:10 am, Sena Gbeckor-Kove <[email protected]> wrote: > > I find this unsurprising. I spoke with on of my clients (a handset > > manufacturer) on this subject. I even recommended that they make sure > > to extend their branding onto the handset. The G1 is very much a > > Google phone. HTC aren't branding it, the Magic also, the carriers who > > take these devices will want to install their own software. A better > > mail client for example, better onboard calendaring. > > > > In my opinion the software that comes on the 'standard' Android build > > represents a step backward in functionality. Where's exchanges sync, > > syncml decent media player etc. Sony Ericsson aren't going to release > > a smartphone with less features than their current devices and an > > underpoweredemailclient. Samsung and HTC may want to extend their > > TouchFlo 3d and whatever the other one's called onto the new platform > > to differentiate. As it is currently I wouldn't spec either of the 2 > > HTC phones to my workforce as I'd have to create a new system image or > > find some way of provisioning apps to everybody's device while > > handling licensing issues. > > > > Give it 6-9 months > > > > Nice OS underwhelming devices. > > > > S > > > > On 20 Mar 2009, at 21:52, focuser wrote: > > > > > > > > > no, at least no from what I can tell from the screenshots above. The > > > iPhone like calendar icon says "Calendar", not sure if it's google > > > calendar or not. The mail icon says "139 Mailbox", which is > > > definitely not gmail. > > > > > On Mar 20, 1:26 pm, Fred Grott <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> Screen shots indicate otherwise friend..Chiana Android, dopod G2 > > >> does have > > >> Google appps > > > > >> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 2:45 PM, focuser <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >>> This is an old but thoughtful article: > > > > >>>http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/09/what-google-mus.html > > > > >>>> There's just one problem: The carriers. A big part of the iPhone's > > >>> success is due to Apple's clout, which enabled it, in effect, to > > >>> tell AT&T > > >>> to sit down and shut up about this or that feature requirement. > > >>> Once other > > >>> carriers saw the iPhone's success in the United States, they > > >>> wanted in on > > >>> that action, so Apple was able to dictate terms globally, just as > > >>> it had a > > >>> year before in the U.S. > > > > >>>> That's why I predict that Android will soon have as many different > > >>> flavors as there are carriers. Some carriers will customize it so > > >>> that their > > >>> phones can't install any applications other than the ones they > > >>> authorize. > > >>> Some will modify the operating system to work with one of their > > >>> custom > > >>> services or another. Some will no doubt cripple it, removing > > >>> features that > > >>> they consider threatening to their own businesses (like the > > >>> ability to run > > >>> VoIP apps). > > > > >>>> And that's their right. Because Android uses the Apache license, > > >>>> anyone > > >>> is free to take it and customize it to their heart's content, even > > >>> if such > > >>> customizations are appalling to the open source community. > > >>> (There's also no > > >>> requirement that customizations be themselves open-sourced for the > > >>> benefit > > >>> of the whole Android community.) > > > > >>>> In short order, "Android" will become meaningless to consumers, > > >>>> and most > > >>> carriers won't even advertise the fact that their phones use the > > >>> operating > > >>> system. Instead, they'll advertise their phones' features, as they > > >>> always > > >>> have, and emphasize the benefits of those features to the users. > > > > >>> This is exactly what's happening in the HTC Magic that will be sold > > >>> in China soon. (http://tinyurl.com/d62mzt) There seems no Gmail, > > >>> Gtalk or other google branded apps, and not a word about "Android", > > >>> even "Google". > > > > >>> And it has been said that Google apps are removed from the phone > > >>> distributed by Orange in France....http://androidforums.com/t- > > >>> mobile- > > >>> g1/4221-g1-france-orange-no-google-apps.html< > http://androidforums.com/t-mobile-%0Ag1/4221-g1-france-orange-no-goog... > > > > >>> Hope Google has heard about voices like this and is taking some > > >>> action > > >>> on it.... > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Discuss" group. 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