Exactly.  This isn't a new lesson.  Did you know the music industry
makes a lot of money?  The opportunity cost of music has gone very
low, for music in general.  It's basically free now everywhere.  What
you are paying for is premium music, music you want, when you want it,
where you want it, how you want it.

Pirates are bad for the victims of piracy, the person who's goods were
taken out of their ship, and sold illegally.  Also anyone hurt in the
attempt.  However back in the day pirates were often popular, cuz they
could choose which ships to steal from, and who to give/sell their
goods too.  The were revolutionary black market traders.

It was never an accurate metaphor for illegal duplication of content.
It worked because it captured the good and bad aspect.  But un
authorized copying is not theft of the thing, its theft of the
reward.  The reward can be cash, or credit, and what is a dollar but 1
credit ;)  For your free apps, you are probably using them to build
brand recognition, for some other product you can monetize, or you
have advertising.  You are building the brand for your application,
and perhaps building someone elses brand.  In the end someone gets
paid.

When you create your content, you chose to use Google as the content
aggregator.  You didn't have to.  You could have hosted your own
website, you could have founded your own 3rd party market, you could
have forked the Android code base (that one still tempts me, but I'm
lazy, and I wouldn't bother maintaining the fork, or installing it on
a device).

Google clearly knows how to run a business, and it's a business based
totally on users and developers trusting Google.  They didn't rush
Android to market, they slow played it.  As they always do.  The
Google Beta is infamous.

If you know you have pocket Aces, you don't rush the hand :-)

Us developers were the first consumers of the Android product.  It was
just software forever without being a phone.  Then it was just 1 phone
forever, and the 2nd phone was simply worse, in my opinion.  It had
less features, in a smaller package.   These were the dark times for
Android developers, especially those that could not wait.


But 2 became 4, 4 became 8, and 8 became 16.  If these trends
continue, heeyy :)

Someone should start an wave dedicated to Android.  Can we just invite
[email protected] to the wave?  I totally realized that
as I had to re edit this post.   I would totally have preferred each
of my edits had been recorded so they wouldn't be lost if google
groups throws a server error, or my browser crashes, or this laptop
goes rogue.

My 2 cents,
-MK

On Apr 2, 7:40 am, Incognito <[email protected]> wrote:
> I don't think you are loosing customers.    They are not really the type who 
> will benefit from alternative markets because they already have access to the 
> main market. Pretty simple solution to limit most piracy. Remember that most 
> piracy is done by regular folks who find it easier to pirate something then 
> to buy it. I.e. Download a song from lime wire. Is really easy, you do not 
> even have to sign in or open an account.  Now, people will still be able to 
> pirate apps if they root their phone. However, most people wont want to go to 
> all that trouble just to save a couple of bucks. Is easier to just pay for 
> the app.
>
> Wow, the more i talk about this the better it sounds. I suspect that other 
> companies will follow AT&T's example. Is a win, win situation, even for the 
> customer.
>
> On Apr 2, 2010, at 2:44 AM, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> We just explain it's AT&Ts' decision so they should talk to them and request 
> a method for removing the restriction :).
>
> Al.
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> On 2 Apr 2010, at 07:37, Incognito wrote:
>
> I know. The idea is evilish. It may be necessary though. Maybe a small price 
> to pay to combat piracy. You do know that in the USA AT&T is already doing 
> this right? Surprised I haven't heard the cries for war.
>
> On Apr 2, 2010, at 2:30 AM, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Doing that would mean you couldn't list your app on alternative markets and 
> get access to all the users on devices which Google hasn't approved and 
> therefore don't have Market installed.
>
> Al.
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> On 1 Apr 2010, at 23:29, Incognito wrote:
>
> Att seems to have a practical aproach, just do not allow installs from 
> outside the android market. Seems like a necessary evil.
>
> On Apr 1, 2010, at 5:59 PM, dadical <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> What really sucks is when your paid apps start showing up there too.
> Over 35% (and climbing) of my installs of my paid app are from pirated
> sources.
>
> I would give my new seeded N1 back in a heartbeat in exchange for an
> Android market that solved piracy in a meaningful way.  I'm sure
> Google is working on something, but good lord things over there feel
> like they take forever sometimes!
>
> On Mar 31, 4:58 pm, Tobias Eisentraeger <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> Hello List,
>
> Two of my free apps from the market got listed today at the website
> wareseeker[dot]com.
>
> I did not consent to publish there, nobody ever asked for my permission. I
> have contacted them through their contact form and via direct email, but no
> answer since about 8 hours. Does anyone have a phonenumber of them? The
> download count goes up.
>
> I believe that no website has the right to distribute another developers
> software without the consent, even if its free in the official android
> market.
>
> You might wanna check if your apps are on there too.
>
> http://pda[dot]wareseeker[dot]com
>
> Any thoughts?
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