Actually.. that's kind of a good idea... and one I hadn't considered...
I don't think I'll actually use it though... I released an app that used
the Zing barcode scannner in the early days of the market and I put in
the capability (almost) automatically download it if they didn't already
have the scanner app on their machine, but I got a bunch of nasty
comments about it, so I built it in and re-released it. I thought it was
a stupid way to do it, but users don't seem to realize that my way saved
a lot of space on their phone.. :).
On 25/06/2010 1:34 PM, Tobias Eisentraeger wrote:
Could you not offer a seperate application as a plug in for your main
app which offers the user to do the contact sync? Then users who want
to do the sync can install this plugin with the read contacts
permission if they want to?
On Jun 25, 2010 9:15 PM, "Brad Gies" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> Not to disagree too much with Mark, but here is one scenario (that I
> have a need for) :
>
> My app uses user groups extensively, and when a user first installs my
> app, I would have liked to be able to ask them is they want to check to
> see if any of their friends are already registered on my site. To do
> that, I would read their contacts (once only) and return a list of the
> groups their friends are in to see if they also want to join that group.
>
> I decided to scrap doing that because I didn't want my app to have to
> have the READ_CONTACTS permission whether the user uses it or not, and
> when they only use it once if they do use it.
>
> AND I can think of many other times I've run into the same issue. I
> really believe this should be added to all Android permissions... even
> if it's just a Grant Once type of option, and then hope that developers
> don't overuse it :).
>
>
>
>
>
> On 25/06/2010 12:03 PM, Mark Murphy wrote:
>> On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 2:47 PM, Peter
Eastman<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'd like to see more permissions handled implicitly through user
>>> actions at runtime.
>>>
>> For some fraction of permissions, this makes sense. The fraction is
>> very very small.
>>
>>
>>> For
>>> example, it's fine for a program to send an SMS message as long as
>>> it's done through a standard UI that displays the message and requires
>>> the user to click the "Send" button. That shouldn't require any
>>> special permissions, and it also should be enough to meet the needs of
>>> most programs. Permission would only be required to send SMS without
>>> using the standard UI, and that would be an uncommon thing to ask
>>> for. That way, it would actually get people's attention if a program
>>> asked for that permission.
>>>
>> This is already implemented. It is also implemented for placing
phone calls.
>>
>> What the core Android team is trying to avoid is a Vista-like
>> experience ("the CPU would like to execute an instruction -- allow or
>> deny?").
>>
>>
>>> No security model can stop all malware, and I think Android does a lot
>>> better than most OS's, but there's room for improvement. Having a
>>> program ask you for special permissions should be the exception, not
>>> the rule.
>>>
>> Assuming the SMobile Systems survey is accurate, here are the top 5
>> permissions requested:
>>
>> INTERNET
>> ACCESS_COARSE_LOCATION
>> WRITE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE
>> ACCESS_FINE_LOCATION
>> READ_CONTACTS
>>
>> None of these have an obvious "user action" that fits your proposed
model, IMHO.
>>
>> There are certainly ways to improve the user's ability to grok and
>> appreciate the permissions screen. However, it is unrealistic to
>> expect that applications will just stop requesting permissions.
>>
>>
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