I'm sure there has, but that's probably not something most if any of us here
know about.  If you are working on shipping a device, you should probably
get in contact through the OHA.

On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:00 PM, Jay Freeman (saurik) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

>  I am not saying that I want to install Google's existing OTA, T-Mobile
> signed updates on my device. I am saying that I am wondering how Google is
> intending to structure relationships to use their OTA infrastructure for
> other vendors. In essence I "want to work with Google to supply [my] own
> system images to [my] own phones through their update servers", and am
> wondering if there has been any thought put into that process on their side,
> past T-Mobile and the G1. -J
>
>  *From:* Dianne Hackborn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 02, 2008 10:10 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* [android-porting] Re: enabling OTA updates for my device
>
> It probably doesn't even make sense to utilize the Google OTA server --
> Google is supplying updates currently for the G1, which are a specific build
> configuration signed with certificates owned by the people who make that
> device (HTC and T-Mobile).  You wouldn't want that OTAed on to a phone with
> your own build, because the certificates wouldn't match what is installed
> and all hell would break loose when it boots with the new certificates if
> you even hacked it to install the update at all.  And even if you got that
> all to work, what you'd be receiving is the standard G1 build, losing
> whatever you have customized.
>
> I'm not sure what you are wanting to accomplish, but generally you would
> either want to work with Google to supply your own system images to your own
> phones through their update servers, or you can look at the code in the
> device for talking with those servers and implement your own; I don't think
> it is a super-complicated server protocol, though probably a little
> convoluted to follow.
>
> On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 5:53 AM, Jean-Baptiste Queru <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>>
>> As I understand, the short answer is that right now "it's
>> Google-specific".
>>
>> I have a bit of second-hand knowledge about the update system, though
>> (since I do have some first-hand knowledge of code that it works
>> directly with). That still second-hand knowledge, though, so take it
>> with a grain of salt:
>>
>> -the first step is to determine that there's an update available.
>> That's the Google-specific part, and that's also the part that I'm the
>> least familiar with. The basic idea about how it's implemented right
>> now is that the device sends information about itself to an update
>> server (e.g. IMEI + current version) and the server responds whether
>> an update is available for that specific device, along with the URI
>> for that update.
>>
>> -the second step is to download the actual bits, typically into
>> /cache. Using the download manager is the recommended option here
>> (because it's been pretty well tested, and because it deals reasonably
>> well with managing space on /cache for that specific case), though I
>> guess that there are other options.
>>
>> -the third step is to reboot into recovery mode with the proper
>> information passed into the recovery code. I don't think that this
>> code is Google-specific, but it's not open-source and it might be
>> version-specific, so if you rebuild it by looking at the recovery code
>> you could end up with something that doesn't work on future versions.
>> I guess it'd be good if that could be covered by system class (to deal
>> with the compatibility issue), but it's not my decision to make (and I
>> guess it won't happen in the immediate future).
>>
>> -you can of course sprinkle just about any UI you want along the
>> various steps of the process.
>>
>> JBQ
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 1:44 AM, Jay Freeman (saurik) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>> > So, let's say that I've succeeded in getting Android running on my
>> device.
>> > Is OTA updates from Google something that only really large-scale
>> providers
>> > like T-Mobile are going to be able to do? -J
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Dianne Hackborn
> Android framework engineer
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to
> provide private support.  All such questions should be posted on public
> forums, where I and others can see and answer them.
>
> >
>


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