> I think we've lost sight of what we're talking about.  We're talking
> about a completely automated method for a local trust anchor to be
> installed on a device, and a kick to EST for the device to receive a
> local credential.  For that to happen there needs to be a trusted
> introduction, and the device manufacturer or its agent is in the best
> position to do that.

no.  the owner's trust controller is.

randy

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