Hi Michael,

Thank you again for the review and the proposed changes. I meanwhile included 
your proposed changes and also addressed most of the issues you raised. The 
results have been captured n the github discussion of open issues 
(https://github.com/anima-wg/anima-brski-prm/issues). The newest version is 
also available in this github.
The remaining open issues are for discussion tomorrow in the Design Team. Most 
of them are already prepared. 

Best regards
Steffen

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anima <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Fries, Steffen
> Sent: Dienstag, 20. September 2022 15:08
> To: Michael Richardson <[email protected]>; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Anima] comments on anima-brski-prm
> 
> Hi Michael,
> 
> I put my comments inline.
> 
> Best regards
> Steffen
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Anima <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Michael Richardson
> > Sent: Montag, 19. September 2022 17:50
> > Subject: [Anima] comments on anima-brski-prm
> >
> > I should remind people that git hates trailing whitespace, and please
> > configure your editors to remove.  I use emacs, and I have some code I
> > use, but most editors now have an option.  So some diffs you may see
> > are just trailing space removal, which I guess I could have done on
> main/master.
> I'll keep this in mind ;-)
> 
> >
> > I made a whole bunch of small editorial fixes, which I collected at:
> > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgith
> >
> ub.co%2F&amp;data=05%7C01%7Csteffen.fries%40siemens.com%7C28dece81
> 9008
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> 7C6379
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> QIjoiV2l
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> %2B%2FP
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> > m%2Fanima-wg%2Fanima-brski-
> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> > Eo%3D&amp;reserved=0
> > (I didn't make all those changes on the 18th, there was a rebase in
> > the middle) You may find that the rich diff at:
> >
> > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgith
> >
> ub.co%2F&amp;data=05%7C01%7Csteffen.fries%40siemens.com%7C28dece81
> 9008
> >
> 432aa88508da9b091efb%7C38ae3bcd95794fd4addab42e1495d55a%7C1%7C0%
> 7C6379
> >
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> QIjoiV2l
> >
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> %2B%2FP
> > pAIGKEXRss90QdiDk%2BoLYwnJ8ewkdtpF6IOXyLw%3D&amp;reserved=0
> > m%2Fanima-wg%2Fanima-brski-
> > prm%2Fpull%2F76%2Ffiles%3Fshort_path%3D39089b2%23diff-
> >
> 39089b29400b74ce53b0f9b46cc0e8c08434b3518372da2bb356646768a1d56e&
> >
> amp;data=05%7C01%7Csteffen.fries%40siemens.com%7C1e3b4e1da3b64d7c39
> >
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> >
> 991995576757266%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLC
> >
> JQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&amp;
> >
> sdata=D8HognvCph6bT2gaA9FyNfTV%2BBLO0Mgg5uBakmVGbgc%3D&amp;res
> > erved=0
> > provides for easier review.
> > In many cases I just split up long paragraphs into more digestable parts.
> >
> Thanks, that definitely increases readability.
> 
> > ** If it would help discussion for me to split these up into a bunch
> > of separate
> > ** pull requests, I can do that.
> >
> > I tweaked many of the diagrams so that aasvg would produce beautiful
> > HTML/PDF.
> Didn't know that, but it definitely looks better.
> 
> >
> > I also opened the following issues:
> > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgith
> >
> ub.co%2F&amp;data=05%7C01%7Csteffen.fries%40siemens.com%7C28dece81
> 9008
> >
> 432aa88508da9b091efb%7C38ae3bcd95794fd4addab42e1495d55a%7C1%7C0%
> 7C6379
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> %2B%2FP
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> > m%2Fanima-wg%2Fanima-brski-
> >
> prm%2Fissues%2F75&amp;data=05%7C01%7Csteffen.fries%40siemens.com%7
> >
> C1e3b4e1da3b64d7c39c608da9a56a8c2%7C38ae3bcd95794fd4addab42e1495d
> > 55a%7C1%7C0%7C637991995576913478%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJ
> >
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> >
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> > XIV%2BPoE%3D&amp;reserved=0: misuse of mDNS
> > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgith
> >
> ub.co%2F&amp;data=05%7C01%7Csteffen.fries%40siemens.com%7C28dece81
> 9008
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> 432aa88508da9b091efb%7C38ae3bcd95794fd4addab42e1495d55a%7C1%7C0%
> 7C6379
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> QIjoiV2l
> >
> uMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=XI
> bzbqYS
> > SwO%2B4N8zQOQlX890%2BTulkX9dbkoSTLzszLc%3D&amp;reserved=0
> > m%2Fanima-wg%2Fanima-brski-
> >
> prm%2Fissues%2F74&amp;data=05%7C01%7Csteffen.fries%40siemens.com%7
> >
> C1e3b4e1da3b64d7c39c608da9a56a8c2%7C38ae3bcd95794fd4addab42e1495d
> > 55a%7C1%7C0%7C637991995576913478%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJ
> >
> WIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C
> >
> 2000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=b3kAxL1qQi9869RrZI9KGxQ7rD6cDBkBJXwT4ACo
> > o7k%3D&amp;reserved=0: what is the threat for registrar-agent mis-use
> > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgith
> >
> ub.co%2F&amp;data=05%7C01%7Csteffen.fries%40siemens.com%7C28dece81
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> C1e3b4e1da3b64d7c39c608da9a56a8c2%7C38ae3bcd95794fd4addab42e1495d
> > 55a%7C1%7C0%7C637991995576913478%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJ
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> 2000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=PiIO9RNg6aYPgBScPHL%2BqNiyllVtTg9kgGfwL%
> > 2F8UTjI%3D&amp;reserved=0: pledge-status responses are cumullative right?
> > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgith
> >
> ub.co%2F&amp;data=05%7C01%7Csteffen.fries%40siemens.com%7C28dece81
> 9008
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> 7C6379
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> QIjoiV2l
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> > m%2Fanima-wg%2Fanima-brski-
> >
> prm%2Fissues%2F72&amp;data=05%7C01%7Csteffen.fries%40siemens.com%7
> >
> C1e3b4e1da3b64d7c39c608da9a56a8c2%7C38ae3bcd95794fd4addab42e1495d
> > 55a%7C1%7C0%7C637991995576913478%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJ
> >
> WIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C
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> 2000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=lPJkOeKI%2FrMTIT3kdwoYH09opqZzcGWP19zPZ
> > EgzEzc%3D&amp;reserved=0: section 5.5 is foreshadowed/repeated
> > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgith
> >
> ub.co%2F&amp;data=05%7C01%7Csteffen.fries%40siemens.com%7C28dece81
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> 432aa88508da9b091efb%7C38ae3bcd95794fd4addab42e1495d55a%7C1%7C0%
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> >
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> >
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> > BkzdyU%3D&amp;reserved=0: more tweaks need for ts diagram
> > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgith
> >
> ub.co%2F&amp;data=05%7C01%7Csteffen.fries%40siemens.com%7C28dece81
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> > m%2Fanima-wg%2Fanima-brski-
> >
> prm%2Fissues%2F70%3Awhy&amp;data=05%7C01%7Csteffen.fries%40siemens.
> >
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> >
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> >
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> > 8MfkVDWq9w%3D&amp;reserved=0 is certificate optional in section 5.5?
> We will address and discuss the issues.
> 
> 
> > two trivial questions I want to bring up here.
> > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgith
> >
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> >
> prm%2Fissues%2F67&amp;data=05%7C01%7Csteffen.fries%40siemens.com%7
> >
> C1e3b4e1da3b64d7c39c608da9a56a8c2%7C38ae3bcd95794fd4addab42e1495d
> > 55a%7C1%7C0%7C637991995576913478%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJ
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> >
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> > DSZatwLhhg%3D&amp;reserved=0:
> >   shorten the pledge end points
> We defined BRSKI-PRM in the first place to be close to BRSKI and thus used
> descriptive names for the endpoints. In the constraint BRSKI document
> shortened names have been specified. We intended the same approach for
> BRSKI-PRM-
> 
> >
> > in constrained-voucher, we wind up shortening all the end-points, so I
> > wonder if we shouldn't just shorten the ones used in PRM *now* so that
> > they can work with CoAP over BTLE, when we get to that stage?
> >
> > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgith
> >
> ub.co%2F&amp;data=05%7C01%7Csteffen.fries%40siemens.com%7C28dece81
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> QIjoiV2l
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> > m%2Fanima-wg%2Fanima-brski-
> >
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> >
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> >
> 2000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=rGzWB8LNmAu9rNBVXK9wGNs0ucMJWsSFJswm
> > bME0Uek%3D&amp;reserved=0: reference to registrar as LDevID(Reg) The
> > Registrar certificate is referred to as LDevID(Reg), and I'm not entirely
> > sure why.    Yes, it could and probably should be issued by the Enterprise 
> > CA,
> > but I don't think it has to be.  It's just the Registrar Certificate.
> > It actually should have the cmcRA EKU set, so it's not just an ordinary 
> > LDevID.
> > Am I missing something here?
> Yes, right, the registrar certificate may be an EE certificate, as it may not 
> be
> necessarily traced back to an IDevID.
> Also the setting of the id-kp-cmcRA EKU needs to be mentioned as to be handled
> in the same way as in RFC 8995
> 
> >
> > Hope to talk to you all on Tuesday evening.
> Yes, will be there.
> 
> >
> >
> > --
> > Michael Richardson <[email protected]>, Sandelman Software Works
> > -=
> > IPv6 IoT consulting =-
> >
> >
> 
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