"both "when: foo" and "when: not foo" evaluate to false?"

Don't recall it ever working that way.

Can you share a playbook that reproduces this?



On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 9:08 AM, Michael Peters <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Yes, I realize the difference between a string and a boolean. But I've
> never seen a system where "foo" and "not foo" evaluate to the same
> thing.
>
> On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Michael DeHaan <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > "Also, isn't it weird the with the variable foo set to string "false"
> > both "when: foo" and "when: not foo" evaluate to false?"
> >
> > This is a programming language concept.
> >
> > No, as the string 'false' in Python or any prograis not the same as
> False.
> >
> > there is a difference between these two:
> >
> > vars:
> >     x: "false"
> >     x: false
> >
> > The above quoted one is a string whose value is the word "false" and it's
> > important the word doesn't get auto-converted into a boolean.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 1:43 PM, Michael Peters <
> [email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Also, isn't it weird the with the variable foo set to string "false"
> >> both "when: foo" and "when: not foo" evaluate to false?
> >>
> >> On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Michael Peters
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > Thanks, this works.
> >> >
> >> > I was under the impression that the 2 syntax variants (yaml vs
> >> > key-value) worked the same. Is this something that should be fixed or
> >> > just documented as a difference?
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Matt Martz <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> If you use the pure YAML complex args way of invoking a module, you
> can
> >> >> make
> >> >> it an actual boolean:
> >> >>
> >> >> - set_fact:
> >> >>     foo: False
> >> >>
> >> >> But due to the fact that you cannot do that with jinja2 variable
> >> >> expansion
> >> >> and such, I'd recommend just sticking to using the |bool filter at
> >> >> evaluation time.  It's more reliable and safer that way.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Michael Peters
> >> >> <[email protected]>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Is there a way to use set_fact to force it to use a real boolean
> >> >>> instead of the string? In the real playbook other tasks and includes
> >> >>> further down don't care where the var came from and I'd rather not
> >> >>> have to alter every boolean to run things through the bool filter
> just
> >> >>> in case the var came from set_fact.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I tried
> >> >>>
> >> >>> - set_fact: foo={{ false }}
> >> >>> and
> >> >>> - set_fact: foo={{ false | bool }}
> >> >>>
> >> >>> But neither of those work.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Matt Martz <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >> >>> > What is happening is that you are effectively setting foo to the
> >> >>> > string
> >> >>> > "false"
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > What you likely want to do is:
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >     when: not foo|bool
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > On Wednesday, August 13, 2014, Michael Peters
> >> >>> > <[email protected]>
> >> >>> > wrote:
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Before I file a ticket, I just want to make sure I'm not doing
> >> >>> >> anything wrong. BTW, this is a simplified example to reproduce
> the
> >> >>> >> problem, not what I was actually trying to do.  I have this
> simple
> >> >>> >> playbook test.yml:
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> ---
> >> >>> >> - hosts: 127.0.0.1
> >> >>> >>   connection: local
> >> >>> >>   tasks:
> >> >>> >>   - set_fact: foo=false
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>   - command: ls /
> >> >>> >>     when: not foo
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Executed like this:
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> ansible-playbook -i '127.0.0.1,' test.yml
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Which results in the following output:
> >> >>> >> PLAY [127.0.0.1]
> >> >>> >> **************************************************************
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> GATHERING FACTS
> >> >>> >> ***************************************************************
> >> >>> >> ok: [127.0.0.1]
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> TASK: [set_fact foo=false]
> >> >>> >> ****************************************************
> >> >>> >> ok: [127.0.0.1]
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> TASK: [command ls /]
> >> >>> >> **********************************************************
> >> >>> >> skipping: [127.0.0.1]
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Notice the last task is skipped. So for some reason it's not
> >> >>> >> following
> >> >>> >> the logic of the when clause like I'd expect. But the really
> weird
> >> >>> >> thing is that if I change the task to say "when: foo" (reverse
> the
> >> >>> >> logic) I get the same output:
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> ---
> >> >>> >> - hosts: 127.0.0.1
> >> >>> >>   connection: local
> >> >>> >>   tasks:
> >> >>> >>   - set_fact: foo=false
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>   - command: ls /
> >> >>> >>     when: foo
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Executed like this: ansible-playbook -i '127.0.0.1,' test.yml
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> PLAY [127.0.0.1]
> >> >>> >> **************************************************************
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> GATHERING FACTS
> >> >>> >> ***************************************************************
> >> >>> >> ok: [127.0.0.1]
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> TASK: [set_fact foo=false]
> >> >>> >> ****************************************************
> >> >>> >> ok: [127.0.0.1]
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> TASK: [command ls /]
> >> >>> >> **********************************************************
> >> >>> >> skipping: [127.0.0.1]
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Same output. So even if something with my logic was wrong (for
> >> >>> >> instance set_fact didn't like the literal "false") you would
> still
> >> >>> >> think that taking out the "not" would result in the task being
> >> >>> >> executed.
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> ansible 1.8 (devel 9edf3a749a) last updated 2014/08/13 14:03:10
> >> >>> >> (GMT
> >> >>> >> +000)
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Am I doing something wrong? Or should I file a bug report?
> >> >>> >>
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