The inconsistent booleanification is definitely not something I'd want to
see here.

Can you please file a bug on github for this one?




On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Michael Peters <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Sure: test.yml
>
> ---
> - hosts: 127.0.0.1
>   connection: local
>   tasks:
>   - set_fact: foo=false
>
>   - command: ls /
>     when: foo
>
>   - command: ls /
>     when: not foo
>
> Executed like "ansible-playbook -i '127.0.0.1,' test.yml"
>
> Results in both tasks being skipped:
>
> PLAY [127.0.0.1]
> **************************************************************
>
> GATHERING FACTS
> ***************************************************************
> ok: [127.0.0.1]
>
> TASK: [set_fact foo=false]
> ****************************************************
> ok: [127.0.0.1]
>
> TASK: [command ls /]
> **********************************************************
> skipping: [127.0.0.1]
>
> TASK: [command ls /]
> **********************************************************
> skipping: [127.0.0.1]
>
> On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 9:25 AM, Michael DeHaan <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > "both "when: foo" and "when: not foo" evaluate to false?"
> >
> > Don't recall it ever working that way.
> >
> > Can you share a playbook that reproduces this?
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 9:08 AM, Michael Peters <
> [email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes, I realize the difference between a string and a boolean. But I've
> >> never seen a system where "foo" and "not foo" evaluate to the same
> >> thing.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Michael DeHaan <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >> > "Also, isn't it weird the with the variable foo set to string "false"
> >> > both "when: foo" and "when: not foo" evaluate to false?"
> >> >
> >> > This is a programming language concept.
> >> >
> >> > No, as the string 'false' in Python or any prograis not the same as
> >> > False.
> >> >
> >> > there is a difference between these two:
> >> >
> >> > vars:
> >> >     x: "false"
> >> >     x: false
> >> >
> >> > The above quoted one is a string whose value is the word "false" and
> >> > it's
> >> > important the word doesn't get auto-converted into a boolean.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 1:43 PM, Michael Peters
> >> > <[email protected]>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Also, isn't it weird the with the variable foo set to string "false"
> >> >> both "when: foo" and "when: not foo" evaluate to false?
> >> >>
> >> >> On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Michael Peters
> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> > Thanks, this works.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I was under the impression that the 2 syntax variants (yaml vs
> >> >> > key-value) worked the same. Is this something that should be fixed
> or
> >> >> > just documented as a difference?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Matt Martz <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >> >> >> If you use the pure YAML complex args way of invoking a module,
> you
> >> >> >> can
> >> >> >> make
> >> >> >> it an actual boolean:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> - set_fact:
> >> >> >>     foo: False
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> But due to the fact that you cannot do that with jinja2 variable
> >> >> >> expansion
> >> >> >> and such, I'd recommend just sticking to using the |bool filter at
> >> >> >> evaluation time.  It's more reliable and safer that way.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Michael Peters
> >> >> >> <[email protected]>
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Is there a way to use set_fact to force it to use a real boolean
> >> >> >>> instead of the string? In the real playbook other tasks and
> >> >> >>> includes
> >> >> >>> further down don't care where the var came from and I'd rather
> not
> >> >> >>> have to alter every boolean to run things through the bool filter
> >> >> >>> just
> >> >> >>> in case the var came from set_fact.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> I tried
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> - set_fact: foo={{ false }}
> >> >> >>> and
> >> >> >>> - set_fact: foo={{ false | bool }}
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> But neither of those work.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Matt Martz <[email protected]>
> >> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >> >>> > What is happening is that you are effectively setting foo to
> the
> >> >> >>> > string
> >> >> >>> > "false"
> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >>> > What you likely want to do is:
> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >>> >     when: not foo|bool
> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >>> > On Wednesday, August 13, 2014, Michael Peters
> >> >> >>> > <[email protected]>
> >> >> >>> > wrote:
> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >>> >> Before I file a ticket, I just want to make sure I'm not doing
> >> >> >>> >> anything wrong. BTW, this is a simplified example to reproduce
> >> >> >>> >> the
> >> >> >>> >> problem, not what I was actually trying to do.  I have this
> >> >> >>> >> simple
> >> >> >>> >> playbook test.yml:
> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >>> >> ---
> >> >> >>> >> - hosts: 127.0.0.1
> >> >> >>> >>   connection: local
> >> >> >>> >>   tasks:
> >> >> >>> >>   - set_fact: foo=false
> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >>> >>   - command: ls /
> >> >> >>> >>     when: not foo
> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >>> >> Executed like this:
> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >>> >> ansible-playbook -i '127.0.0.1,' test.yml
> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >>> >> Which results in the following output:
> >> >> >>> >> PLAY [127.0.0.1]
> >> >> >>> >> **************************************************************
> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >>> >> GATHERING FACTS
> >> >> >>> >>
> ***************************************************************
> >> >> >>> >> ok: [127.0.0.1]
> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >>> >> TASK: [set_fact foo=false]
> >> >> >>> >> ****************************************************
> >> >> >>> >> ok: [127.0.0.1]
> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >>> >> TASK: [command ls /]
> >> >> >>> >> **********************************************************
> >> >> >>> >> skipping: [127.0.0.1]
> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >>> >> Notice the last task is skipped. So for some reason it's not
> >> >> >>> >> following
> >> >> >>> >> the logic of the when clause like I'd expect. But the really
> >> >> >>> >> weird
> >> >> >>> >> thing is that if I change the task to say "when: foo" (reverse
> >> >> >>> >> the
> >> >> >>> >> logic) I get the same output:
> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >>> >> ---
> >> >> >>> >> - hosts: 127.0.0.1
> >> >> >>> >>   connection: local
> >> >> >>> >>   tasks:
> >> >> >>> >>   - set_fact: foo=false
> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >>> >>   - command: ls /
> >> >> >>> >>     when: foo
> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >>> >> Executed like this: ansible-playbook -i '127.0.0.1,' test.yml
> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >>> >> PLAY [127.0.0.1]
> >> >> >>> >> **************************************************************
> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >>> >> GATHERING FACTS
> >> >> >>> >>
> ***************************************************************
> >> >> >>> >> ok: [127.0.0.1]
> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >>> >> TASK: [set_fact foo=false]
> >> >> >>> >> ****************************************************
> >> >> >>> >> ok: [127.0.0.1]
> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >>> >> TASK: [command ls /]
> >> >> >>> >> **********************************************************
> >> >> >>> >> skipping: [127.0.0.1]
> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >>> >> Same output. So even if something with my logic was wrong (for
> >> >> >>> >> instance set_fact didn't like the literal "false") you would
> >> >> >>> >> still
> >> >> >>> >> think that taking out the "not" would result in the task being
> >> >> >>> >> executed.
> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >>> >> ansible 1.8 (devel 9edf3a749a) last updated 2014/08/13
> 14:03:10
> >> >> >>> >> (GMT
> >> >> >>> >> +000)
> >> >> >>> >>
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