At 07:03 8/5/01 -0700, Jon Stevens wrote: >I'm sorry, but this whole logging discussion is just plain stupid and I'm >sick of hearing it.
well don't listen - no ones forcing you? >Define a set of interfaces and implement those interfaces with a thin >wrapper around whatever logging system people want to use. like you did with turbine? Where those interfaces/classes are larger, more complex and harder to maintain than an existing toolkit. Kind of defeats the whole purpose of having a logging toolkit maintained outside the project don't you think? >I don't give a shit which tool is better faster or whatever. Just create >Ant's system to plug in whatever tool you want. You are of course more than >welcome to adapt what I have done for Velocity and Turbine into Ant. why add complexity to ant when it is not needed? If anything is "stupid" about this conversation I think that comment would definetly rate high. People build toolkits to be reused - could you imagine everytime you wanted use JDOM you had to create a wrapper around it - and make it generic enough that it fit other similar toolkits. Stupid - yes I would have to agree. Cheers, Pete *-----------------------------------------------------* | "Faced with the choice between changing one's mind, | | and proving that there is no need to do so - almost | | everyone gets busy on the proof." | | - John Kenneth Galbraith | *-----------------------------------------------------*
