Allan,
I think you've gotten some bad responses as my experience with this
list is quite different from yours. I know, I'm one of those people
from "the other side" with regard to this discussion, but that has not
always been true.
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Responding "Well, submit a patch, then" to every gripe has several
> flaws.
Does this really happen?
I usually mark an email with a gripe as "come back to it later" and
respond with something like "You are right. Do you want to submit a
patch?" - the time I can spend on Ant is limited and things get fixed
a lot sooner if I don't have to code up a patch myself, obviously.
This doesn't mean that things wouldn't get changed without a volunteer
patch by somebody else - it just takes longer.
> + The griper is familliar enough with development tools to
> mechanically accomplish a patch generation
People have submitted complete modified files instead of "diff" output
more than once and I've committed such changes more than once. Of
course things are easier if I can see what has changed in one glance,
that's why we prefer diff output.
> + The griper is sufficiently familiar with java that they are
> capable of coding the new behavior
Most "submit a patch" requests apply to documentation - which makes
that "The griper is sufficiently familiar with English". Well, I'm
German and dare to touch the documentation anyway - I always can lean
on Diane to fix the worst glitches (thanks ;-).
> + The griper is sufficiently familiar with ant that they are
> capable of presenting a patch from which the maintainers will not
> flee, holding their noses.
I can't remember that this has ever happened.
> Additionally, it presents a tremendously arrogant perspective to the
> rest of the user (and thus potential developer) community.
If this was true, we'd really have a problem. I just don't think that
"submit a patch" *is* the standard answer, sorry. I may be wrong, of
course.
> I've gotten and seen this response several times. I'm trying to
> shut up and soldier for my own part.
Please don't.
> The sum message is that the ant-clue don't think enough of the
> feedback to even respond politely.
I really hope that this is not the common impression.
Stefan
