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So, other than for Politics, why should J# be treated any differently?
Why even spend the time debating this???
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My point exactly, debating all this j# stuff is detracting from the main
purpose 
of this list. Don't get me wrong though I certainly dont think the world
should
revolve around java. Given the choice I would much prefer to spend my days
coding
c++ or perl which are both far more enjoyable languages. 

What I am saying though is that the whole point of open source projects with
the 
Apache foundations work in particular is that people can make a choice as to
what 
tools and environment they want to use without having to go cap in hand to
their 
manager asking them to buy an expensive ide.

So why should we encourage people to use a closed, highly restrictive
development 
environment ? I'm not some hacker fascist , I've been through all that
Microsoft 
junk (and it is junk) in the past and I don't want to be forced into a
situation 
in another 2 or 3 years time that I have to give up all the free easy to use
tools 
that I've got now and go back to using another clunky, badly documented,
overhyped 
badly designed IDE.

B--

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael J McGonagle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 08 January 2002 20:01
To: Ant Users List
Subject: Re: Ant for J#?


"Hunt, Bryan" wrote:
> 
> If you think that ant should support J# your missing the point. If
microsoft
> 
> want to create disruptive technologies it should be at their expense that
> support tools be developed.

I am sorry that you took my post as supportive of Microshod, but you
got  me completely wrong. While the tool is written in Java, it would
appear that there are others using it for NON-Java things. I, myself,
would like to use it for handling the scheduling and process management
for various tasks.

I have thought about using Ant as a process manager for several network
related tasks (ie retrieve via ftp, unzip the file, then do something
else with it...). Or at the very least, it could be used to prototype
something like I described. (What sort of security issues are there
around Ant?)

Beven describes his NON-Java useage for Ant in another message in this
thread.

These things have nothing to do with J#, which I would imagine, in the
long run will have a very small percentage of attention from the Ant
crowd. Just in the few months that I have read the list, it seems that
Ant if far more than its supposed predessesor 'make'. And it also seems
that more and  more things are being done with it.

So, other than for Politics, why should J# be treated any differently?
Why even spend the time debating this???

Mike

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