Elad,

Let me be very clear here, we will not be discussing this during the meeting in 
May.

Repeated assertions do not make a thing true and at this point everyone is very 
clear on your opinion of Spamhaus. I will ask you directly to cease these kinds 
of emails to the list. This is the last time I hope I have to say this.

Brian
Co-Chair, RIPE AA-WG

Brian Nisbet
Service Operations Manager
HEAnet CLG, Ireland's National Education and Research Network
1st Floor, 5 George's Dock, IFSC, Dublin D01 X8N7, Ireland
+35316609040 brian.nis...@heanet.ie www.heanet.ie
Registered in Ireland, No. 275301. CRA No. 20036270

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From: Elad Cohen <e...@netstyle.io>
Sent: Monday 20 April 2020 10:11
To: Brian Nisbet; anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net
Subject: Re: Call For Agenda Items RIPE 80

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Hello Brian,

I have a matter that I would like to raise:

The anti-abuse illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project" and how it 
is damaging and hurting many businesses worldwide, how the contacts of that 
illegal anonymous organizations are part of the anti-abuse community (including 
in this working group like Richard D G Cox was) and how they are violating 
global privacy laws with the support of LEA's - all of it in illegal way 
according to the LEA's countries and according to the following presentation of 
"The Spamhaus Project":

https://www.scribd.com/document/445894312/Spamhaus-Illegal-Private-Data-Violation<https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.scribd.com%2Fdocument%2F445894312%2FSpamhaus-Illegal-Private-Data-Violation&data=02%7C01%7Cbrian.nisbet%40heanet.ie%7C40da683e73a74aa47a7f08d7e50ad55e%7Ccd9e8269dfb648e082538b7baf8d3391%7C0%7C0%7C637229707021490189&sdata=FRYOtS2YOdR7mbCRzPZY6XIyYhhUi1UAJ2BWWmiTwOc%3D&reserved=0>

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Besides it, there is another matter of "The Spamhaus Project" not being 
regulated and supervised by any country/government/LEA - in this way members of 
"The Spamhaus Project" can abuse it for their own benefits, for example the 
criminal which is the owner of the twitter account 
https://twitter.com/underthebreach<https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Funderthebreach&data=02%7C01%7Cbrian.nisbet%40heanet.ie%7C40da683e73a74aa47a7f08d7e50ad55e%7Ccd9e8269dfb648e082538b7baf8d3391%7C0%7C0%7C637229707021490189&sdata=8ulNyrx0SdD0zO0Qq4nDHvEA5d8Aqi2%2FHyKd3hF3tG8%3D&reserved=0>
 and is part of "The Spamhaus Project", for example Laura Atkins from 
WordToTheWise 
(https://wordtothewise.com/<https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwordtothewise.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cbrian.nisbet%40heanet.ie%7C40da683e73a74aa47a7f08d7e50ad55e%7Ccd9e8269dfb648e082538b7baf8d3391%7C0%7C0%7C637229707021500188&sdata=ZdxcdA1R6A4VoDdTSs0L6RU6AmK%2B5qyh9LFypvv8dck%3D&reserved=0>)
 which is selling a Spamhaus listing removal service, for example members of 
"The Spamhaus Project" which are working in email delivery companies and "The 
Spamhaus Project" is attacking their competitors.

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Another matter that I would like to raise is the use of profiling in the 
anti-abuse community including in "The Spamhaus Project", profiling is being 
used by dumb people that don't know how to their work otherwise, it is the 
"easy" (and to my opinion - highly illegal) way. The anti-abuse community 
should raise its voice against any kind of profiling being done by the illegal 
anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project".

Respectfully,
Elad

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From: anti-abuse-wg <anti-abuse-wg-boun...@ripe.net> on behalf of Brian Nisbet 
<brian.nis...@heanet.ie>
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 11:08 AM
To: anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net <anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net>
Subject: [anti-abuse-wg] Call For Agenda Items RIPE 80

Colleagues,

As you are all no doubt aware RIPE 80 will be an online only meeting.

This is a new departure for us all, but significant preparation has already 
been done and I'm really looking forward to a great event.

The Anti-Abuse WG has a slot from 10:00 - 10:45 CEST on Thursday 14th May. If 
you have any matters you'd like to raise, please let me know as soon as 
possible.

And remember, you need to register for RIPE 80. You can do so, free of charge, 
here:

https://ripe80.ripe.net/attend/register/<https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fripe80.ripe.net%2Fattend%2Fregister%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cbrian.nisbet%40heanet.ie%7C40da683e73a74aa47a7f08d7e50ad55e%7Ccd9e8269dfb648e082538b7baf8d3391%7C0%7C0%7C637229707021500188&sdata=aIrgfJsl9e5dcMx40bwT26KuwEvpkXk8VkRJ2ixDo18%3D&reserved=0>

Thanks,

Brian

Brian Nisbet
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HEAnet CLG, Ireland's National Education and Research Network
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