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Hello Stephen,
 
Excuse my language, but what's your problem? You don't need to be very smart to know how many subscriber the list have. Just visiting the list homepage, http://www.topica.com/lists/ANTINATO. So what? Since when quantity is synonimous of quality?
 
On Margolis: I currently receive two or three emails a week from different sources containing articles written by this individual. Most of them from people with no knowledge whatsoever on his background. And I don't live in Toronto.
 
As per the "118", never underestimate the capabilities of the 'forward to'.
 
Take it easy, mate
 
 
>
> From: Stephen Gowans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 13:39:28 -0500
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: The Canadian Connection  [WWW.STOPNATO.ORG.UK]
>
> HTTP://WWW.STOPNATO.ORG.UK
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>
> Of course, it's well known the CIA recruits heavily from the ranks of
> Canadian journalists, there being too few American journalists from which to
> choose, and the CIA having too few connections in the US, and Canadian
> journalists having a far greater reach than any of their counterparts in the
> US or Britain or France. Why, with the circulation of Margolis's paper
> reaching upwards of 30,000, (though most of the readers never read
> Margolis's column, the horoscope, Toronto Maple Leafs stats, and the
> Sunshine girl having infinitely more appeal) and his potential exposure on
> this listserve to the mind boggling number of 118, the CIA has chosen well.
> With a reach like that, who knows what damage he could do.
>
> Yes, indeed, Richard, it is no coincidence he, like me, is based in Canada.
>
> But I must run.  A meeting awaits with my fellow Canadians to plot the
> spread of more disinformation through our widely read newspapers.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Richard Roper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:30 AM
> Subject: Re: Columnist Eric Margolis [WWW.STOPNATO.ORG.UK]
>
>
> > HTTP://WWW.STOPNATO.ORG.UK
> > ---------------------------
> >
> > I suggest it is time for these exchanges to stop.
> >
> > The problem with margolis is not how we may/ may not
> > disagree with him, but his "official" contacts for
> > whom he distributes disinformation.
> >
> > It's no coincidence he's based in Canada.
> >
> >
> > --- Stephen Gowans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > HTTP://WWW.STOPNATO.ORG.UK
> > > ---------------------------
> > >
> > > But Nancy, Margolis is a vegan! And he would never
> > > countenance the sending of chickens to Afghanistan.
> > >
> > > Still, you may be right. At the same time we prevail
> > > upon antiwar.com to blacklist Margolis, maybe we can
> > > get them to stop posting Pat Buchanan and Justin
> > > Raimondo. Surely there are people on the Left (and
> > > not Chomskyites, Trotskyites, social democrats,
> > > anarchists, world socialists, libertarian
> > > socialists, third-way Marxists, progressives and
> > > Blairites) who are making the same points on
> > > Afghanistan, Iraq, and so on. Better yet, maybe some
> > > of them are vegans. How about Alexander Cockburn? Or
> > > does he work for the CIA?
> > >
> > > Another idea: Being an unrepentant ovolacto
> > > vegetarian (yes, I do drink milk: mea culpa), I
> > > think my writing should be posted before any of
> > > those other guys. After all, who needs ideas, when
> > > you have the right political loyalties (and diet)?
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > >   ----- Original Message -----
> > >   From: Nancy Hey
> > >   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 10:15 PM
> > >   Subject: Re: Columnist Eric Margolis
> > > [WWW.STOPNATO.ORG.UK]
> > >
> > >
> > > HTTP://WWW.STOPNATO.ORG.UK
> > > ---------------------------
> > >   "
> > >   Other people are making the same points he is on
> > >   Afghanistan, Iraq and so forth; there's no need to
> > >
> > >   provide this enemy of ours with more exposure and
> > >   authority than his contacts in the intelligence
> > >   community have already succeeded in doing.
> > >   Respectfully,
> > >   Rick
> > >   "
> > >   My sentiments exactly!  How can we get Antiwar.com
> > > to see this point?
> > >
> > >   peacefully yours,
> > >   Nancy Hey
> > >
> > >   mart-remote wrote:
> > >
> > >     Well said Rick. Please, let's not give this
> > > bastard any more exposure than he already gets, or
> > > even the thinest veneer of credibilty. Margolis is a
> > > CIA-KLA terrorist who happens to use a typewriter to
> > > kill people. His words do not belong on this list.
> > > One slight correction. He is with the Toronto Sun,
> > > not the Toronto Star.
> > >
> > >                           mart
> > >
> > >
> > ======================================================================
> > >
> > >
> > >     Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 22:25:32 -0800 (PST)
> > >     From: Rick Rozoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >     Subject: Re: Cowboy Prez rides to rescue? -
> > > Columnist Eric Margolis
> > >     [WWW.STOPNATO.ORG.UK]
> > >
> > >
> > >     Dear Friends,
> > >                  For anyone not already acquainted
> > > with
> > >     the fact, Eric Margolis is a Western
> > > disinformation
> > >     agent who boasts, inter alia, of smuggling
> > > rockets
> > >     into the Afghan mujahedin in the 1980s and
> > > possessing
> > >     a host of intelligence contacts, including with
> > > the
> > >     CIA.
> > >     A quick Google search with the words "Eric
> > > Margolis
> > >     socialism" will demonstrate with whom we're
> > > dealing.
> > >     There is nothing remotely enlightened or
> > > progressive
> > >     about this individual, notwithstanding the fact
> > > that
> > >     his columns, from the very establishment Toronto
> > > Star
> > >     where he is the official foreign correspondent,
> > > have
> > >     been crossposted and linked on several US
> > >     'progressive' sites fairly regularly of late.
> > >     In fact, the only time he criticizes Western
> > >     militarism, aside from goading it into being
> > > more
> > >     aggressive (e.g. "Stopping Europe's New Nazis"
> > > and
> > >     "Serbia Needs Moral Cleansing"), is when one of
> > > his
> > >     presumed co-religionists is under fire.
> > >     As such he operates on a personal, and hardly
> > >     political or principled, agenda.
> > >     Other people are making the same points he is on
> > >
> > >     Afghanistan, Iraq and so forth; there's no need
> > > to
> > >     provide this enemy of ours with more exposure
> > > and
> > >     authority than his contacts in the intelligence
> > >     community have already succeeded in doing.
> > >     Respectfully,
> > >     Rick
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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