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>X-eGroups-Return: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >X-eGroups-Return: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >X-eGroups-Approved-By: amnehtt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> via web; 05 Jul 2002 >05:42:07 -0000 >X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >X-Apparently-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >From: "X98" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Mailing-List: list [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2002 21:28:07 -0700 >Subject: Pentagon RESCUE ??? Open, Bloody, Questions . . . 1/3 > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>X98 >To: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 8:31 PM >Subject: Pentagon RESCUE ??? Open, Bloody, Questions . . . 1/3 > > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Carol A. Valentine >To: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2002 8:18 PM >Subject: Pentagon RESCUE ??? Open, Bloody, Questions . . . 1/3 > >It was murder, actually -- with a sham "rescue" slicked over the top. >This article has been divided up into three sections for e-mail >purposes. You may read the entire article at: ><http://www.Public-Action.com>http://www.Public-Action.com > >* * * > >Pentagon RESCUE? >Open, Bloody, Questions . . . 1/3 >by Carol A. Valentine >President, Public Action, Inc. >Entire article available >at: <http://www.Public-Action.com>http://www.Public-Action.com >Copyright, June, 2002 >May be reproduced for non-commercial purposes > >* * * > >"There cannot be any survivors; it just would be beyond comprehension." >-- Donald Rumsfeld, US Secretary of Defense, speaking of missing >Pentagon personnel on September 11, 2001 -- just nine hours after >impact. > >"And just as we may not rescue them from a fire, so may we not rescue >them from a collapse [of debris] or from water or from anything that >may destroy them." > >June 23, 2002 -- The recent movie "Black Hawk Down (Leave No Man >Behind)" deals with an important lesson -- the military has two jobs. >The military must destroy the enemy's forces and they must ensure the >survival of their own. "Black Hawk Down (Leave No Man Behind)" >dramatizes a story of survival: the heroic efforts of soldiers who >attempted to rescue their fellows who were trapped behind enemy lines >in Mogadishu, Somalia. The rescuers themselves become trapped, and >they, too, needed to be rescued. > >For about 140 minutes, "Black Hawk Down (Leave No Man Behind)" deals >with how much soldiers -- from the generals down to the enlisted man >-- care about each other. We see soldiers risking their lives to get >their wounded buddies, risking grenades, risking machine gun fire, >risking rockets, risking belligerent mobs -- all to rescue other >soldiers. We hear dialogue that goes like this: > >"Medivac! Medivac!" >"No man gets left behind," >"You all right?" >"No man gets left behind," >"We won't leave you behind," >"If he don't get to the hospital in 1/2 hour, he's in trouble!" >"No man gets left behind." > >At one point, two soldiers are talking about a helicopter crash. The >dialogue goes something like this: "There can't be any survivors," >says the first man. The second replies: "We don't know that, we >gotta go back and look!" > >At the conclusion of the movie, soldier hero Sgt. Hoot Gibson is >asked why he risks life and limb in these military actions: Is he a >war addict? Hoot replies: >"It's about the man next to you." > >Camaraderie, being a team member -- that's what the US military is about. > >Or is it? > >What would you think of a military that refused to rescue its >soldiers from certain death -- even though those soldiers were within >arm's reach, right in the Pentagon office building? > >What would you think of a military that publicly pretended rescue, >but meanwhile deceitfully ensured the deaths of its own soldiers? > >What would you think of a military that gave away the its rightful >jurisdiction over military matters to perfidious civilians, and stood >by while the civilians let US soldiers die? > >Who would support such a military? > >As you read this article, keep in mind that on September 11, the >Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff was General Henry Hugh Shelton. >Shelton is a former Commanding General of the 101 and 82nd Airborne >Divisions. He is a former Commanding General of the XVIII Airborne >Corps, and a former Commander in Chief of the Special Operations >Command. It was Special Operations that conducted the "Black Hawk >Down (Leave No Man Behind)" mission in Mogadishu, Somalia. (See >Shelton's career highlights at: ><http://1-14th.com/GenShelton.htm>http://1-14th.com/GenShelton.htm >cached at: ><http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-shelton-career>http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-shelton-career > >There's what you need to know: On September 11, the top commander of >the entire US military machine was intimately familiar with aircraft, >aviation fuel fires, aircraft rescue, and the ideals depicted in >"Black Hawk Down (Leave No Man Behind)." > >However, those who directed the 9-11 rescue at the Pentagon did these >amazing things: > > * They sprayed the aviation fuel fire with water. Every >housewife knows you don't spray water on a grease or oil fire; both >military and civilian aviation fire fighters know you don't spray >water on an aviation fuel fire. * They allowed the fire to spread >until the upper floors of the Pentagon collapsed, burying Army and >Navy personnel in the debris and further hampering their rescue. > * Once the upper floors collapsed, the directors of the rescue >flouted standard rescue procedures for collapsed buildings. > * While there should still have been hope of finding survivors >alive, they used a wrecking ball to demolish sections of the building >still standing. Many additional tons of debris crashed down upon the >already buried victims, almost certainly collapsing any spaces or >voids which may have sheltering victims in the original debris. > * When qualified emergency medical technicians arrived by >helicopter to rescue the victims, they were ordered to leave and >forbidden from returning. One wave of survivors were brought out, >and then there were no more . . . > * One flimsy excuse after the other was used to stop the work and >delay rescue operations. > * Civilian rescuers worked long shifts and became exhausted with >wrongheaded methods. Meanwhile, thousands of able-bodied military >personnel at nearby bases -- including those specially trained in >putting out aviation fires -- sat and watched the drama on Tee Vee. > * Surviving military intelligence officers lost jurisdiction over >military intelligence documents and those documents were collected by >civilians not cleared to see them. > >Meanwhile, the Pentagon front office made a media spectacular of the >fire. Donald Rumsfeld and other Pentagon officials wrung their hands >and cried, "How awful, how awful" for days, stoking up passions for a >war. > >Do I believe that the well-meaning, desperate, and exhausted rescuers >we saw on TV intended anything but the best? No. I believe the >people doing the work had the very best intentions and were trying to >save lives. But they were relying on the leadership to make >decisions. They naturally followed orders as they are trained to do. >Among the people I accuse are: > > * Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff at that time, Gen. Henry >Hugh Shelton, > * Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of Defense, > * Paul Wolfowitz, Deputy Secretary of Defense, > * Rabbi Dov Zakheim, Undersecretary/Comptroller of DoD, > * Secretary of the Army Thomas E. White, > * Other commanders of the National Military Command Center, > * Other "John Does" -- persons whose names remain hidden to the >public at this time. > >SOURCES OF INFORMATION > >Government and quasi-government sources were used, including: >The DoD's American Forces Information Service (AFIS) ><http://www.defenselink.mil/afis/>http://www.defenselink.mil/afis/ >The AFIS's Defense Visual Information Center ><http://www.dodmedia.osd.mil/dvic/>http://www.dodmedia.osd.mil/dvic/ >The Military District of Washington ><http://www.mdw.army.mil/>http://www.mdw.army.mil/ >and standard news coverage -- Associated Press, Reuters, UPI, etc. > >PART I " . . .WE MAY NOT RESCUE THEM FROM A FIRE . . . " > >"And just as we may not rescue them from a fire, so may we not rescue >them from a collapse [of debris] or from water or from anything that >may destroy them." > >Here are the major points I will cover in Part I: > Aviation Fire Control Requires Foam >Military Uses Foam On Jet Fuel Fires >Water, Not Foam, Was Used On Pentagon Flames >Effect Of Using Water? Fire Continued to Spread >Airport Firetruck Used Water Despite FAA Regulations >Was There Really A Jet Fuel Fire? >Military Firefighters Close To Pentagon >Military Firefighters Fail to Show >Pentagon Watched 9-11 On Tee Vee"911? Help! Pentagon Here! Send Civilians!" >Rumsfeld, Top Brass Knew What Was Happening >Fire As A Media Spectacular >Rumsfeld's Crystal Ball: "There cannot be any survivors ..." >Rumsfeld's Predictions Come True >Emergency Medical Technicians Told To Get Out And Stay Out >Air Space Not Too Restricted >Concern For Civilians? >Area Hospitals Puzzled By Low Number Of Surviving Victims >Army "Supports" FBI And Fire Department >FBI Looking For Osama's Fingerprints? >Black Hawk Down Meets Pentagon Down >Fire Used As Excuse To Stall Rescue >Fire Used To Explain Deaths >Fire, She Keep On Burn'in . . . >Millions Of Gallons Of Water Used > >AVIATION FIRE CONTROL REQUIRES FOAM > >Let us begin by accepting one of the Official Truths of 9-11: >American Flight 77 crashed into the Pentagon, and exploding jet fuel >caused an inferno. The fire obviously threatened the lives of those >still in the building, and it threatened to spread. It had to be put >out quickly. > >Liquid petroleum fires present a special problem to firefighters. >Ordinarily, water is used to douse building fires. But liquid fuel >floats on the top of water, giving the fuel access to oxygen. Thus >water does not extinguish a liquid petroleum fire. > >Special foams have been developed to extinguish liquid petroleum >fires. Those foams are mixtures that float on the surface of the >fuel and cut off the oxygen, suffocating the combustion. > >If you want to know more about extinguishing fires, try: ><http://www.quantchem.kuleuven.ac.be/safety/info1.htm>http://www.quantchem.kuleuven.ac.be/safety/info1.htm >cached at: ><http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-aboutfires>http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-aboutfires > >If you want to learn about aircraft rescue procedure and the routine >use of foam, visit this page: ><http://www.eecs.umich.edu/mathscience/funexperiments/agesubject/lessons/newton/fire.htmlcached>http://www.eecs.umich.edu/mathscience/funexperiments/agesubject/lessons/newton/fire.htmlcached > > >at: ><http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-newtonsrescue>http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-newtonsrescue > >In the above pages, notice the emphasis on speed in fighting fires. >Aviation fire-and-rescue people have only about two minutes to rescue >passengers before it is too late to help. And foam is THE tool of >choice because it puts out liquid fuel fires efficiently. > >If you go to the Aviation Fire Journal you will see photos of special >foam spraying trucks used at airports, and a photo of three >firefighters extinguishing an aircraft fire with foam. ><http://www.fire.org.uk/aviation/>http://www.fire.org.uk/aviation/ >cached at: ><http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-aviationfirejournal>http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-aviationfirejournal > >MILITARY USES FOAMS ON JET FUEL FIRES > >We have already seen from the above referenced Aviation Fire Journal >webpage that foam is used to fight fires at civilian airports, but >now let's turn our attention to what happens in military aviation. >Visit the DoD's Defense Visual Information Center at: ><http://www.dodmedia.osd.mil/dvic/>http://www.dodmedia.osd.mil/dvic/ > >and put "rescue" in the DVIC search engine. On March 23, 2002, I did >that, and when I scrolled down, I found the following three photos: ><http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-dodmedia.gif>http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-dodmedia.gif > >Each of them shows foam being sprayed on aviation fuel fire. I >cached each photo. Here they are. > >The photo bearing the ID DMSD0001393 ><http://nfo.dodmedia.osd.mil/VIS/2000/Marines/DM-SD-00-01393.JPG>http://nfo.dodmedia.osd.mil/VIS/2000/Marines/DM-SD-00-01393.JPG >is cached at: ><http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-pic93.jpg>http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-pic93.jpg > >The text under this photo reads: >"Two crash fire rescue Marines fight a jet fuel fire to sharpen their >skills in the event a real fire emergency were to arise." >The photo bearing the ID DMSD0001394 ><http://nfo.dodmedia.osd.mil/VIS/2000/Marines/DM-SD-00-01394.JPG>http://nfo.dodmedia.osd.mil/VIS/2000/Marines/DM-SD-00-01394.JPG >cached at: ><http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-pic94.jpg>http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-pic94.jpg > >The text under this photo reads: >"Two crash fire rescue Marines fight an extremely hot jet fuel fire >to sharpen their skills in the event a real fire emergency were to >arise." [sic] >The photo bearing the ID >DMSD0001395http://nfo.dodmedia.osd.mil/VIS/2000/Marines/DM-SD-00 >01395.JPG >cached at: ><http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-pic95.jpg>http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-pic95.jpg > >The text under this photo reads: >"Members of a crash fire rescue team advance into a fire pit in order >to dowse an extremely hot jet fuel fire to sharpen their skills in >the event a real fire emergency were to arise." >You will find more photos of military aviation firefighter training >at the Unofficial United States Air Force Crash Rescue/Air Rescue >Firefighter Web Site Training Page: ><http://pedroairrescuechopper.net/Crash/firetraining.htm>http://pedroairrescuechopper.net/Crash/firetraining.htm >or ><http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-unof-usaf-rescue>http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-unof-usaf-rescue > >You will find a wealth of similar pages by conducting your own >Internet search or following links on the pages already cited. > >WATER, NOT FOAM, WAS USED >ON PENTAGON FLAMES > >By now we have established that knowledgeable fire fighters never, >never, never, use water to fight petroleum fires. However, here is >what happened: > >"Outside, the Arlington County police and fire departments arrived >and started securing the area and pumping water on the blaze." >("September 11 at the Pentagon," American Forces Press Service, >October 11, 2001. ><http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Oct2001/n10112001_200110113.html>http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Oct2001/n10112001_200110113.html >cached at: ><http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-afis-couchpotatoes>http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-afis-couchpotatoes > >Look >at this photo from the American Forces Information Service. ><http://jccc.afis.osd.mil/images/sres.pl?Lbox_cap=356273&dir=Photo&ttl=010911-M>http://jccc.afis.osd.mil/images/sres.pl?Lbox_cap=356273&dir=Photo&ttl=010911-M > > >4122I-031&vn=&ref=defenselink >cached at: ><http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-0930firetruck>http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-0930firetruck > >The caption reads: >"Firefighters work to put out the flames moments after a hijacked >jetliner crashed into the Pentagon at approximately 0930 on Sept. 11, >2001. (U.S. Marine Corps photo by Cpl. Jason Ingersoll) (Released)" >What wrong with this picture? Well, we know military men are precise >about keeping time. What time did the Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon? >Depending on the report you read, the event occurred at 9:40 a.m. >(Time Magazine), 9:43 a.m. (CNN), or even 9:45 a.m. (Miami Herald). > >It surely would taken the Arlington Fire Department five or ten >minutes to arrive at the Pentagon and set up the hoses. That would >suggest the Marine's photo was taken somewhere between 09:45 to 9:55 >a.m., fifteen minutes later than he states. > >It's an odd photo -- the much of the "water" being sprayed by the >firetruck appears to be white out. The jet originates from the lower >left side of the picture, to the left of the fire truck, and the >water fans out broadly but does not lose any of its opacity. But >notice that the upper floors had not yet collapsed at the time the >photo was taken. > >EFFECT OF USING WATER? >FIRE CONTINUES TO SPREAD > >But what was the result of using water to extinguish a jet fuel fire? >Predictably, the fire continued to spread. Soon the upper floors and >the roof were involved, and they collapsed. We should be surprised? ><http://jccc.afis.osd.mil/images/sres.pl?Lbox_cap=356321&dir=Photo&ttl=010911>http://jccc.afis.osd.mil/images/sres.pl?Lbox_cap=356321&dir=Photo&ttl=010911 > > >M%204122I-031&vn=&ref=defenselink >cached at: ><http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-flamesspread>http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-flamesspread > >The photo taken after the collapse was taken by Jason Ingersoll, the >same Marine who took the photo of the fire truck spraying water on >the fire at "0930." The caption on the photo taken after the >collapse, however, reads: >"The pentagon [sic] in flames just minutes after a hijacked jetliner >crashed into the building on Sept. 11, 2001. (U.S. Marine Corps photo >by Cpl. Jason Ingersoll) (Released)" No, this second picture could >not have been taken "just minutes" after impact. According to >photographic evidence the upper floors did not collapse immediately, >and surely the Marine photographer knew exactly when he took this >photo. Furthermore, a CNN 9-11 time line available on the Net states: > >"10:10 a.m.: A portion of the Pentagon collapses." ><http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/09/11/chronology.attack/>http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/09/11/chronology.attack/ > >So the second >photo was taken approximately 30 minutes after the impact event. >Thirty minutes is not "just minutes" after impact. Now let's return >to the American Forces Press Service coverage: > >"Fire continued to burn the Pentagon and spread in unrenovated >sections. Flames ignited core materials in the layered roof and >were particularly difficult to get at. Pools of aviation fuel would >ignite occasionally and create thick black smoke over the building . >. ." > >"AT 6:00 p.m., with the building still on fire . . ." ("September 11 >at the Pentagon," American Forces Press Service, October 11, 2001. ><http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Oct2001/n10112001_200110113.html>http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Oct2001/n10112001_200110113.html >cached at: ><http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-afis-couchpotatoes>http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-afis-couchpotatoes > >AIRPORT FIRETRUCK USED WATER >DESPITE FAA REGULATIONS > >We have just seen that military aviation firefighters are trained to >use foam on aviation fuel fires. Are civilian aviation firefighters >dumb enough to use water? No, not at all. FAA regulations require >civilian airports to have firetrucks equipped to spray foam, and just >two years ago the Detroit City Airport was cited by the FAA because >it would not follow these regulations. > >According to newspaper reports, Detroit City Airport firefighters had >been asking airport fire department for more foam because their >supplies were low, but for weeks the firefighters received no >response. Then, shortly after midnight June 21, Secret Service >agents notified City Airport firefighters to expect First Lady >Hillary Rodham Clinton to arrive the next day on a Lear jet. Mrs. >Clinton would be in Detroit for a $1,000 a person fund-raiser for New >York Senate campaign. > >The next day the firefighters got the 150 gallons of foam they had >been requesting. >(Detroit News, "FAA criticizes City Airport for Violations," November 5, >2000. ><http://detnews.com/specialreports/2000/firedept/faa/faa.htm>http://detnews.com/specialreports/2000/firedept/faa/faa.htm >cached at: ><http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-faa-detroit>http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-faa-detroit > >But look at this photo from the Military District of Washington's webpage, ><http://www.mdw.army.mil/news/news_photos/911/pages/firetruck.html>http://www.mdw.army.mil/news/news_photos/911/pages/firetruck.html >cached at: ><http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-airport-truck345>http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-airport-truck345 > >The caption under the photo reads: >"Fire truck 345 from Metropolitan Washington Airports Authority Fire >Department throws a stream of water into the collapsed point of >impact as smoke billows from the Pentagon shortly after an airplane >slammed into the west side of the building." > >Why is the Metropolitan Washington Airports Authority Fire Department >spraying water on the Pentagon fire, when FAA regulations require >airport firefighting trucks to use foam? It is inexplicable -- >unless, of course, you consider the entire "rescue" mosaic. > >WAS THERE REALLY A JET FUEL FIRE? > >This photo shows firefighters from the Alexandria Fire Department >spraying water on the debris. ><http://www.mdw.army.mil/news/news_photos/911/pages/firemen.html>http://www.mdw.army.mil/news/news_photos/911/pages/firemen.html >cached at: ><http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-alex-fire-dept>http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-alex-fire-dept > >Makes one wonder, doesn't it? Perhaps all these firefighters knew >what we don't -- maybe there was no aviation fuel in the Pentagon >that day . . . no aviation fuel means no airplane, no airplane means >no truth in the Official Story. That's one explanation. > >MILITARY FIREFIGHTERS CLOSE TO PENTAGON > >Andrews Air Force Base, home of Air Force One, is 9 1/2 miles from >the Pentagon, as the crow flies,. Bolling Air Force Base is 1 1/2 >miles from the Pentagon, as the crow flies. Quantico Marine Base >(home of Marine Helicopter Squadron One) is 23 miles from the >Pentagon, as the crow flies. >MILITARY FIREFIGHTERS FAIL TO SHOW > >There should have been no problem getting aviation fire fighters from >Andrews, Bolling or Quantico to the Pentagon, pronto, to put the fire >out and rescue their comrades. The soldiers in "Black Hawk Down >(Leave No Man Behind)" did not hesitate to crash through enemy lines, >through crowds throwing grenades, through machine gun fire, rocket >launchers, armed militia, etc., to rescue their comrades. The >servicemen at Andrews, Bolling, or Quantico were in friendly >territory. All they had to do was travel a few miles along the >Beltway or Interstate 95. > >So did the "leave no man behind" military show up to rescue their >Pentagon comrades? No, it didn't happen. > >As the photo in the September 24, 2001, Business Week (pg. 47) shows, >the US military was organized enough to have soldiers drive an >armored personnel carrier (APC) down Wall Street in New York during >the 9-11 crisis, but not organized enough to send military aviation >firefighters to the Pentagon. ><http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-wallstreet>http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-wallstreet > >On the other hand, let's not be too critical of the military response >to the fire. After all, the Marines did send a photographer. > >PENTAGON WATCHED 9-11 ON TEE VEE > >Let's take a step back and look at what was happening before disaster >struck the headquarters of the mightiest military force on God's >Green Earth. Let us rely on the DoD's own news service, the American >Forces Press Service. > >Surely AFPS had access and can give us the inside scoop. According >to AFPS, the morning of September 11 saw the folks at the Pentagon >sitting around watching the WTC towers burn on Tee Vee, courtesy of >CNN. ><http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Oct2001/n10112001_200110113.html>http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Oct2001/n10112001_200110113.html >cached at: ><http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-afis-couchpotatoes>http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-afis-couchpotatoes > >When CNN announced the NYC strikes were an act of terrorism, did any >of the couch potatoes react? Did they say: >"You don't suppose they'll send planes over here, do you? After all, >those people are terrorists, and this is the Pentagon. We'd better >call Andrews Air Force Base and get some air cover . . . ." ? > >No, the Pentagon couch potatoes just "exchanged shocked glances . . . >" And presumably continued to watch the drama unfold on CNN. I >wonder if they were munching on donuts or nachos as they watched? > >"911? HELP! >PENTAGON HERE! SEND CIVILIANS!" > >BLAM! Flight 77 (allegedly) hits the Pentagon. How do the couch >potatoes respond? The American Forces Press Service report tells us: >"Outside, the Arlington County police and fire departments arrived >and started securing the area and pumping water on the blaze" but >mentions not one word about how the Arlington County Fire Department >was alerted to the situation. > >We can imagine General Couch Potato dialing 911: > >"Hello? 911? This is the Pentagon. We're sitting around watching >Tee Vee and just found out from CNN that half of our building just >got blown away, and hey, there's a fire . . . can y'all send a few >trucks over? Yeah. Its an aviation fuel fire, so make sure to spray >water on it, orright?" > >Now some may point out that the Arlington County Fire Department has >an agreement with the Pentagon to handle fire emergencies (SOP#OPS >EMS 10). Obviously this agreement was made to handle everyday fires >started by exploding Pentagon coffee pots, or file cabinet fires. It >is ridiculous to suggest the Pentagon had this agreement to handle >acts of war on the Pentagon. >And Pentagon personnel knew that the September 11 events were acts of >war. They were watching CNN, and CNN had just told them. > >No, the couch potatoes should have ordered air cover over DC when the >first news from New York broke. And failing that, once the 9:40 a.m. >(or 9:43, or 9:45) event occurred, the military should immediately >have ordered military aviation firefighters to put out the blaze. > >Local civilian fire departments handle ordinary building fires. They >don't handle aviation fuel fires. Local fire stations should not >have been on the scene that day. Their presence acted as a >distraction. Their presence distracted attention from the simple >fact that no one in the Pentagon was taking proper measures to put >the fire out. > >RUMSFELD, TOP BRASS >KNEW WHAT WAS HAPPENING > >It might be comforting to think that Rumsfeld, Shelton, and the top >brass were all out playing golf that day and not on hand to see what >was going on, but that was not true. The American Forces Press >Service tells the story as if these were heroic lads: > >"One area never closed: the National Military Command Center. >Rumsfeld and the senior leadership repaired to the facility and >monitored DoD activities worldwide. At one point, smoke grew so >thick in the faculty that there was talk of evacuating, but Rumsfeld >scotched it." ><http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Oct2001/n10112001_200110113.html>http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Oct2001/n10112001_200110113.html >or ><http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-afis-couchpotatoes>http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-afis-couchpotatoes > >What is the National Military Command Center, mentioned above? See ><http://www.dtic.mil/jcs/core/ongoingops.html>http://www.dtic.mil/jcs/core/ongoingops.html >or ><http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-nmccenter>http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-nmccenter > >So the top commanders of each of the services were on site. Each of >the services uses aviators, each of the commanders HAD to know water >does not extinguish aviation fuel fires, yet all of them let the >farce continue. > >FIRE AS A MEDIA SPECTACULAR > >Had the fire been put out quickly with foam, Rumsfeld would have lost >valuable public relations mileage. The "stubborn" fire at the >Pentagon was just one facet of a campaign designed to whip the >American pubic and military into a bloodlust for a war on Islam. From >a propaganda viewpoint, the higher the casualty list, the better. > >The American Forces Information Service describe the press gala on >September 11 this way: > >"Across Washington Boulevard from the Pentagon, the press set up shop >at the navy Annex Exchange gas station and broadcast the fire >fighting activities. With Correspondents' Corridor closed, reporters >dictated stories using cell phones. TV trucks with antennae showed >up and eased some of the communications problems. > >"At 6:00 p.m, with the building still on fire, Pentagon officials >announced Rumsfeld would have a press conference in the Pentagon. >Buses arrived at the gas station to take reporters, photographers and >videographers to the Pentagon. > >"Inside the River Entrance of the building the smoke hit like a >physical force. People could not see to the end of the hallways and >it was tough to breathe. The smell of burning insulation and >electrical wiring permeated the briefing studio. > >"As Rumsfeld, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Army Gen. Henry >Shelton, Senate Armed Services Committee chairman Sen. Carl Levin, >ranking minority member Sen. John Warner, and Army Secretary Thomas >White came into the studio, one side of the building was still on >fire." ><http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Oct2001/n10112001_200110113.html>http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Oct2001/n10112001_200110113.html >or ><http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-afis-couchpotatoes>http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-afis-couchpotatoes >"Rumsfeld expressed his sorrow over the loss of life at the building ...." > >Do you believe Rumsfeld felt any grief over those he was doing nothing to >help? > >Missing from the media spectacular was THE key 9-11 player: the >commander of the North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD), >Ralph E. Eberhart; as commander of NORAD, it was Eberhart's job to >keep American skies safe. But Rumsfeld & Company kept Eberhart >safely tucked away. At 6:42 p.m. on September 11 Donald Rumsfeld >held a national press conference. Eberhart did not even show up then. > >RUMSFELD' CRYSTAL BALL: >"THERE CANNOT BE ANY SURVIVORS" > >Emergency rescue experts say earthquake victims who are buried in >debris can survive up to 12 days (more below.) Rumsfeld held his >September 11 press conference approximately nine hours after impact. >He made this statement: > >"There cannot be any survivors; it just would be beyond comprehension." ><http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Sep2001/t09112001_t0911sd.html>http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Sep2001/t09112001_t0911sd.html >cached at: ><http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-911pressconference>http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-911pressconference >http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-911pressconferencepic > >How could Rumsfeld KNOW no more survivors would be found in the >Pentagon debris, when earthquake experts give victims a 12-day chance >of survival? At this point, the Pentagon victims had only been >buried nine hours. Why the hurry to pronounce them all dead? > >Gen. Shelton was at Rumsfeld's side during this press conference. He >of course uttered pious statements about "barbaric terrorism carried >out by fanatics against both civilians and military people, acts that >have killed and maimed many innocent and decent citizens our >country." Oddly, however, Mr. Derring-do Shelton did not say a word >about the rescue efforts which were murdering survivors. > >He said: >"I will not tell you up front, I have no intentions of discussing >today what comes next, but make no mistake about it, your armed >forces are ready." > >Yes, our armed forces were ready, all right, Mr. Rescue Shelton. >Ready to let civilian firemen squirt water on an aviation fuel fire >while men died under the debris. And you stood by and watched . . . >you watched it going on for days . . . > >Aside from Rumsfeld, who spoke about the rescue efforts? Sen. Carl >Levin, chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, who uttered >this inanity: "Our intense focus on recovery and helping the injured >and the families of those who were killed is matched only by . . . >[rah, rah, war, war ] . . ." > >RUMSFELD'S PREDICTIONS COME TRUE > >No survivors were found on September 12 and 13, or on any other day >thereafter, just like Rumsfeld predicted. > >"As of Thursday morning [September 13], about 70 bodies had been >removed from the buckled section of the Pentagon as search-and-rescue >workers toiled around the clock with little hope of finding more >survivors. Anyone who might have survived the initial impact and >collapse could not have survived the fire that followed." ("Pentagon >Says About 190 People Dead," September 13, by Robert Burns, AP >Military Writer, Associated Press) ><http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-ap-09-13-2001>http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-ap-09-13-2001 > >Remember heat travels UP, not down. Those still buried in the rubble >may well have been protected from the fire above them. > >On September 14, the Pentagon announced 126 DoD personnel were dead. >On September 15, the figure was lowered to 124 because two people had >been double-counted. On October 11, 2001, when President Bush spoke >at a Pentagon memorial service, he confirmed 125 DoD deaths. >("Memorial Service Honors Pentagon Victims," American Forces >Information Service, Oct. 11, 2001.) ><http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Oct2001/n10112001_200110116.html>http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Oct2001/n10112001_200110116.html >cached at: ><http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-afis-10-11-2001memorial>http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-afis-10-11-2001memorial > >Remember Rumsfeld's words on September 11: > "There cannot be any survivors; it just would be beyond comprehension." > >So Rumsfeld's predictions came true. After the first round of >victims escaped, there were no more survivors . . . He's quite a >clairvoyant, isn't he? What are the statistical chances of Rumsfeld >being 100% right in circumstances like those? > >EMERGENCY MEDICAL HELP >TOLD TO GET OUT AND STAY OUT > >We all know that when a person is seriously ill or injured, he must >be given medical attention as soon as possible. Delay may cost the >victim's life. That's why we have ambulances, and that's why >ambulances have sirens. > >On September 11, three members of a Washington Hospital Center >MedStar Transport helicopter team responded to the emergency at the >Pentagon. Several days later, (September 14) they were interviewed >by Kathy Fowler of WJLA-TV (ABC-Channel 7) in the Washington, DC >area. Luckily, I have a copy of that interview. > >The MedStar pilot and crew were among the very first at the scene, >according to the WJLA report. When they arrived, they were told that >another suicide plane was on the way and they should LEAVE. > >How does that comport with the "Black Hawk Down (Leave No Man >Behind)" philosophy? Here we have civilians showing up to perform >rescues and the military (or whoever was controlling the Pentagon >scene then) ordering them to abandon the victims on the pretext of an >unconfirmed and unfounded report. > >The MedStar people, to their eternal credit, refused to leave. By >the time they did, they had helped eight victims and were taking >another to the hospital. Speaking of the rescued victim, one of the >crew told Fowler on camera: > >"She hugged me three times and said thank you for saving my life." >Then Fowler told the audience: > >"After the crew transferred one patient back to the Washington >Hospital Center, they were not allowed to go back because of the >restricted air >space." > >So what we have is this: MedStar arrived and was immediately ordered >to leave. They refused, rescued eight people, took one to the >hospital, and were prevented from coming back. > >Now who would prohibit a MedStar helicopter to return to the scene of >a disaster and take victims to the hospital? Those MedStar >helicopters should have been given military escorts to and from the >disaster site. What could be more important than immediate >professional medical care for the 9-11 victims? > >AIR SPACE NOT TOO RESTRICTED > >Despite what the MedStar people were told, the air space was not >quite as restricted as the Pentagon indicated. Here is a photo of a >military helicopter flying over the crash site conducting "aerial >survey." If the US military could conduct surveillance over the crash >site, it surely could have seen to it that the MedStar helicopters >were safely escorted to and fro. ><http://www.mdw.army.mil/news/news_photos/911/pages/medvac2.html>http://www.mdw.army.mil/news/news_photos/911/pages/medvac2.html >cached at: ><http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-airspace-not-closed>http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-airspace-not-closed > >This photo shows what appears to be the same chopper, now described >as an Army "Red Cross" helicopter. ><http://www.mdw.army.mil/news/news_photos/911/pages/helicopters.html>http://www.mdw.army.mil/news/news_photos/911/pages/helicopters.html >cached at: ><http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-airspace-not-closed2>http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-airspace-not-closed2 > > >It is of utmost importance that the injured should be moved only by > >trained people. Improper handling of an injured person can result > >in his death or permanent paralysis. In this photo, we see that the > >Pentagon allowed the Park Police helicopter to land and do "rescue" >work. The Park Police are part of the National Park Service. They >are not trained emergency medical people. Nor is the helicopter >marked as an emergency medical chopper. >Why did they stop MedStar's trained professionals but allow National >Park Service employees to handle the injured? Something stinks here. ><http://www.mdw.army.mil/news/news_photos/911/pages/airtransport.html>http://www.mdw.army.mil/news/news_photos/911/pages/airtransport.html >http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-parkpolice > >CONCERN FOR CIVILIANS? > >Perhaps you think that the MedStar team was chased away because those >in charge of the crash site were concerned for the safety of >civilians. If so, recall that civilian firemen were present at the >scene, using water on a petroleum-fueled fire when they should have >been using foam. They were not chased away. > >Some, upon learning qualified emergency medical rescue people were >turned away from the Pentagon disaster site, may insist there "must" >have been a good reason for keeping them out. But a tree is judged >by the fruit that it bears. So let's look at the fruit. > >AREA HOSPITALS SURPRISED BY >LOW NUMBER OF SURVIVING VICTIMS > >Area hospitals geared up to handle a large number of injured >survivors, and were most surprised when few showed up. > >"But only about 80 people were treated at area hospitals, according >to Walter Reed officials. At Virginia Hospital Center in nearby >Arlington, over 100 nurses and 50 doctors were called in -- 16 times >the normal emergency staffing. They treated 44 victims in the first >24 hours, more than any other hospital in the region. But it was a >mere trickle compared with what they expected. Inova Alexandria >Hospital treated just 22 victims, 16 of whom were released Tuesday. >Six patients were helicoptered from the Pentagon to Washington >Hospital Center. 'We got the first wave, says Marion Jordan, >director of the hospital's renowned burn unit. 'After than, >nothing.' In the end, his trauma teams treated about as many people >as they would from a large house fire." (US News & World Report, >Sept. 14, 2001, pg. 51) > >Repeat: >"In the end, his trauma teams [at the nearby Washington Hospital >Center] treated about as many people as they would from a large house >fire." What's wrong with this picture? Then, later on the same >page: > >"Waiting for survivors: Navy Lt. Charles McGill, 26, who had worked >at the Pentagon for just four weeks, joined a group of people who >calmly evacuated the massive building, then made his way around the >perimeter to where dark, heavy smoke poured out. He lined up to be a >stretcher bearer. He and his fellow volunteers, four to a board, >were told that during these first hours only survivors would be >moved. 'In three hours, no one came out.'" (US news & World Report, >Sept. 14, 2001, pg. 51.) > >Repeat: Navy Lt. Charles McGill said: >"In three hours, no one came out." > >Then, on the next page: >"At the Pentagon, two trauma teams remain on the scene in two triage >tents, with the workers replaced every eight hours. Lt. Col. James >Goff, assistant chief of surgery at Walter Reed, says that no >survivors have been removed from the building since the early hours >Tuesday." (US News and World Report, September 14, 2001, Pg. 52.) > >Repeat: >"[N]o survivors have been removed from the building since the early >hours Tuesday." > >ARMY "SUPPORTS" FBI AND FIRE DEPARTMENT > >During Donald Rumsfeld's September 11 press conference, Secretary of >the Army Thomas E. White spoke gobblegook, thus: >"I think it's fair to say at this point that the fire is contained, >and will shortly, if not already, be sufficiently controlled to allow >entry into the building. That entry will be supervised by the FBI, >who are in charge of the site, assisted by the fire departments that >are present. We, on the Army side, will support them as they go in >the building and search for casualties and bring them out . . . " >(<http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Sep2001/t09112001_t0911sd.html>http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Sep2001/t09112001_t0911sd.html >cached at: ><http://www.public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-911pressconference>http://www.public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-911pressconference) > >What was White talking about? Who is the "them" White is referring to? >". . . support them as they go in the building and search for >casualties and bring them out . . . " ? Obviously he was talking >about FBI agents. The FBI is going to rescue Pentagon personnel! But >FBI agents are not medically trained, and they are not rescuers. They >are assassins. Look at what they did to Melissa Morrison, a >7-year-old Davidian child, when they "rescued" her in Waco nine years >ago: ><http://www.public-action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum/burial/page/b_lghtnstr.html>http://www.public-action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum/burial/page/b_lghtnstr.html > >Why would the Army transfer the rescue of Army personnel over to the >FBI? Why weren't soldiers and Army medics rescuing other soldiers? > >FBI LOOKING FOR OSAMA'S FINGERPRINTS? > >Shortly after the 9:40 a.m. event, it was announced that the >explosion and fire was caused by American Airlines Flight 77, which >had been commandeered by terrorists and purposely flown into the >Pentagon -- conveniently missing the offices of Rumsfeld and the >Joint Chiefs, of course. Putting out the fire and rescuing the >buried victims should have been the first order of business. Surely >the FBI did not need to take control over the site to look for >fingerprints on the fuselage or other "clues." So why did the FBI >have control of the site? >BLACK HAWK DOWN MEETS PENTAGON DOWN > >We already know that when the 9-11 terror events were taking place, >Gen. Shelton was out of the country. Surely he was informed by phone >as the events were unfolding in the US. Surely he was in a position >to issue commands to the armed forces: > >"Where are our people? Buried? The fire is still burning? What the >Sam Hill is going on? Put that fire out, pronto, you know how to do >it, and get our people out. Leave no man behind!" By the time >Rumsfeld gave his 6:42 press conference, Leave-No-Man-Behind Shelton >was by Rumsfeld's and White's side, silent, when Rumsfeld told the >world the FBI had "secured" the war zone and was supervising the >[non-] rescue. Remember, Shelton was a former commander of Special >Operations Command, the "Black Hawk Down" people who performed so >bravely in Mogadishu. > >Of course Shelton knew about the Mogadishu rescue. The story first >appeared as a series written by Mark Bowden, and ran in the >Philadelphia Enquirer, in 1997. It was then published as a book. >Here is what Leave-No Man-Behind Shelton said to the author: > >"Your account of the events in Mogadishu on October 3, 1993 is an >inspirational and evocative retelling of one of the most significant >military operations of the past 10 years. Though there is heroism and >professionalism aplenty, you also bring out the errors and missed >opportunities that contributed to the unfortunate outcome of the >mission. Both senior leaders and young soldiers can learn much from >this compelling story. . . . Black Hawk Down will occupy an honored >place in my personal library." >(<http://www.nightstalkers.com/tfranger/blackhawkdown/review.html>http://www.nightstalkers.com/tfranger/blackhawkdown/review.html >cached at: ><http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-shelton-bhd>http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-shelton-bhd) > >Note that Shelton does not commend Bowden for the accuracy of his >accounting or call Bowden's story "true to history." > >You can rest assured Mr. Rescue Shelton and all the big poohbahs at >Rumsfeld's 9-11 press conference saw the movie, too. Eight hundred >top Pentagon officials and military brass attended its Washington, DC >premier. It's hard to imagine the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of >Staff missed that event. This from The Nation, February 25, 2002: > >"The military was so helpful in making 'Black Hawk Down' that it >deserves a production credit. After vetting the script, the Pentagon >sent to Morocco (the shooting site) two C-5 transports carrying eight >helicopters and more than 100 soldiers from the same Ranger company >that fought in the Somalia raid depicted in the movie. US Army >pilots flew the helicopters in the movie's battle scenes, and two >retired soldiers who fought in the raid served as advisers to >director Ridley Scott. And the Pentagon has been pleased with the >result. 'Powerful,' Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld called it >after attending the Washington Premier along with 800 other top >officials and brass . . ." ("Black Hawk Downer," by Michael Massing, >The Nation, February 25, 2002, pg. 5.) > >According to an article in Counterpunch (March 1, 2002), some "Black >Hawk Down (Leave No Man Behind)" actors were given Army Ranger >Orientation Training at Fort Benning. ("An Actor Speaks Out -- >What's Wrong With Black Hawk Down," Counterpunch, March 1, 2002.) > >Then the director, Ridley Scott, rushed the film's release after 9-11 >(the movie was released on January 18, 2002); Scott earned a Pentagon >commendation for doing so. ("Black Hawk Down," Worker's World, >January 31, 2002.) > >But what happened on September 11 at the Pentagon is in direct >opposition to the heroism depicted in the movie. "Black Hawk Down >(Leave No Man Behind)" is obviously what we're supposed to believe -- >that the lives of the grunt soldiers are precious to the commanders >of the US military. But the observable truth, the truth that can be >documented, is just the opposite. > >Shelton, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Zakheim and the National Military >Command Center treated the missing Pentagon personnel as dust motes. >"Black Hawk Down (Leave No Man Behind)" is obviously a piece of >embroidery. The Pentagon sham rescue is verifiable fact. > >FIRE USED AS EXCUSE TO STALL RESCUE > >"Search and rescue operations are continuing, but they are stymied by >at least two fires on either side of the impact area. Firefighters >are directing hoses at the flames -- manifested by great plumes of >bitter smoke -- from the center courtyard of the Pentagon." ("No >Hope of survivors in Pentagon Attack," United Press International, >September 12, 2001.) ><http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-upi-09-12-2001>http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-upi-09-12-2001 > >Notice this observation: "Search and rescue operations are >continuing, but they are stymied by at least two fires . . . " Of >course the fires "stymied" the rescue. So why didn't they use foam? > >Two and three days after the crash, fire was still a problem at the Pentagon. > >FIRE USED TO EXPLAIN DEATHS > >"The Pentagon said Wednesday no more survivors are expected to be >pulled from the tons of rubble and stubborn fires created by the >terrorist attack that collapsed a portion of the building. > >"'The area of the Pentagon where the aircraft struck and burned >sustained catastrophic damage. Anyone who might have survived the >initial impact and collapse would not have survived the fire that >followed,' the Defense Department said in a written statement." >("Officials say no more survivors expected to be found at Pentagon; >smoke lingers," Associated Press, April 12, 2001.) ><http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-ap-09-12-2001>http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-ap-09-12-2001 > >FIRE, SHE KEEP ON BURNIN' . . . > >So Rumsfeld and Company permitted water to be sprayed on a petroleum >fuel fire, allowed more of the building to become involved in the >fire, watched the upper floors collapse, ordered emergency medical >help off the scene and failed to order military aviation firefighters >to the scene. Now let's have a closer look at the progress of the >fire/media event. > >On September 12, we get these reports: >"Fire fighters using water cannons continued to douse the charred >building from either side of the impact area." ("Officials say no >more survivors expected to be found at Pentagon; smoke lingers," >Associated Press, September 12, 2001, ><http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-ap-09-12-2001>http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-ap-09-12-2001) > >"Smoke from the blackened concrete structure drifted over Washington >and a stubborn roof fire continued to burn more than 24 hours after a >high jacked fuel-laden airline slammed into a corner of the >five-sided building on Tuesday morning." ("Pentagon Reopens, Death >Toll Uncertain," Reuters, September 12, 2001; ><http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-reuters-09-12-2001>http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-reuters-09-12-2001) > >"The damage to the Pentagon was extensive, compounded by smoke and >water damage from tenacious fires that burned for a day and a half >after the attack." ("Pentagon Toll at 190," New York Times, Sept. >14, 2001, ><http://www.ocregister.com/breakingnews/attack/09142001/14nypentacci.shtml>http://www.ocregister.com/breakingnews/attack/09142001/14nypentacci.shtml) >cached at: ><http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-nyt-09-14-2001>http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-nyt-09-14-2001) > >"Late Thursday, rescuers worked to shore up unsteady parts of the >building but flames erupted. The flare-up sent black smoke billowing >hundreds of feet into the air over Washington." ("Flight Data, >Cockpit Voice Recorders Found in Pentagon Wreckage," FoxNews, >September 14, 2001, ><http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-foxnews-09-14-2001>http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-foxnews-09-14-2001) > >Late Thursday, and flames were still erupting -- that is almost 60 >hours after impact, folks. How many building fires you've ever heard >of last 60 hours? > >MILLIONS OF GALLONS OF WATER USED > >So much water had been poured into the building, the Pentagon later >hired Munters Moisture Control Services to help get rid of it. > >"'Millions of gallons of water flowed throughout the building after >the attack,' said Joe Kelley, Munters district manager in the >Washington DC area. In some places water was 18 inches deep on the >floors." ><http://www.muntersamerica.com/mcs/htm/pentagon/pentagon.htm>http://www.muntersamerica.com/mcs/htm/pentagon/pentagon.htm >or ><http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-munters>http://www.Public-Action.com/911/rescue/obq-munters >-- >Carol A. 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