I think we did actually talk about some of the stuff that was coming down the pipe when we used to have those AOLserver chats. Not sure what happened to those. I personally haven't been "officially" assigned to AOLserver support for a while now.
- n On 8/1/07, Nathan Folkman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > To be honest and blunt, the community process in terms of AOLserver is > rather broken, and has been for some time. The 4.5 work was done in-house > here at AOL, and with limited community involvement. A lot of the > "experimental" features were added to deal with specific scaling challenges > we knew we would be facing here. > > When decided to go ahead and release 4.5, the thought was that we would > eventually finish up any backwards compatibility work that needed to be > done. We also assumed that if there were issues, people would simply hold > off on upgrading, or work around the issues. > > Would documentation have helped - of course. Would a roadmap be useful - > definitely. Agree with everything you, and others are saying, but we're not > there yet. Sorry. > > - n > > On 8/1/07, Rick Cobb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I mostly sympathize with your sentiments. Incompatible changes should be > > documented. And design documents & directions for AOLServer belong in > > public on the AOLServer wiki, not hidden. > > > > I.e., if when someone decided this was a good idea, there was an > > "experimental features" page for 4.5 that outlined the idea, that would > > at least form the basis for (a) docs, and (b) community discussion. If > > someone (like you or me) needed that backward compatibility, we could > > contribute it. At present, it still seems like the docs we see on the > > wiki are either generated from long-ago internal documentation, or not > > written at all. > > > > And as for roadmaps: > > "Your search - roadmap - did not match any documents." > > > > However, I would like to point out that one of the real problems with > > the AOLServer community for a while was its perceived inability to pick > > up innovations. Discouraging change from inside AOL is only going to > > make the problem worse. We should be encouraging experimentation -- but > > with community feedback. > > > > -- ReC > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: AOLserver Discussion [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf > > Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 8:57 AM > > To: AOLSERVER@LISTSERV.AOL.COM > > Subject: Re: [AOLSERVER] configured minthreads, maxthreads doesnt show > > up with [ns_server threads] command > > > > > Technically everything in the configuration file is a Tcl command > > > (ns_section, ns_param, etc.) so it's really not that much of a > > stretch. > > > But > > > I agree, it is different. > > > > Technically, the configuration file is a bucket of bits, but that's not > > a > > very useful observation. > > > > > Had we ever actually gotten around to deploying AOLserver 4.5 > > internally > > > here at AOL, I'm sure we would have at least done the work to provide > > some > > > backwards compatibility wrappers for things like this, but as yet we > > > haven't. > > > > Geezus. In this case, the code simply shouldn't've gone in. > > > > Or it should've been offered to the community in its incomplete form, > > with > > the offer to incorporate it in 4.5 if volunteers in the community > > completed it. > > > > > > -- > > AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ > > > > To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the > > body of "SIGNOFF AOLSERVER" in the email message. You can leave the > > Subject: field of your email blank. > > > > > > -- > > AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ > > > > To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to <[EMAIL > > PROTECTED]> > > with the > > body of "SIGNOFF AOLSERVER" in the email message. You can leave the > > Subject: field of your email blank. > > > > > > -- > Nathan Folkman > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Nathan Folkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the body of "SIGNOFF AOLSERVER" in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
