I hope nobody ever gets the impression that python will ever "work"
with AOLserver.

You really have to understand that AOLserver is a Tcl application. It
isn't a matter of supporting a new language, like Apache. But please
realize that Apache doesn't support any language, it simply provides
an all intrusive, and relatively horrible API to the server. You want
to use Apache? Adopt their horrible API.

People who use AOLserver tend to realize this problem and avoid it by
instinct. The truth is that there are many applications which seem to
work perfectly well during development...when only one person is
actually using the system...but start to fail when exposed to the real
world. AOLserver tends to avoid this problem and for some reason
outperforms all specialized servers with the exception of OS based
transfers of very large files (but AOLserver still retains the ability
to record errors during such large file transfers, while offloaded
responses lose this ability).

The biggest long term threat to AOLserver is potential changes to the
C and Tcl level APIs coming out of the Tcl community.

First remember, if you can, that Tcl owes its
multi-threading/thread-safe capability to the developers of AOLserver.
But the current leaders of the Tcl community seem mostly not
interested in acknowledging this history...even though the latest Tcl
versions include threads as a default. The community leaders seem
convinced that an event model, alone, works best. Unfortunately their
current API lacks enough depth to really support a robust event driven
application.

The main defect in the Tcl only/event only model is the lack of a
controller that sits above or around the execution environment.
AOLserver solves this in a more limited and targeted way than a JVM or
C# environment. Yet we have seen Java move closer to the AOLserver
architecture, but they still have problems (it is still Java or C#).

The only really positive thing I can say about python is that it is
relatively easy to translate into Tcl.

But if you want to do client/server with a major in HTTP-like
messaging, AOLserver is still way ahead of any competition.

tom jackson

On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 12:15 AM, nitin chandra <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thank you Everyone,
>
> After a lot of attempts i was successful in installing the AoLserver
> but not PyWX or for that matter any thing which will integrate with
> Python.
>
> Support regarding PyWX on AoL is non-existent, and key people have
> stopped working / supporting this combo around 8yrs back (at least one
> person said so).
>
> AoL is a great product ... but the future ...as far as my personnel
> view is ..... not very bright.
>
> I am sure when .... "when" .... there is a dedicated team ... it will
> make a refreshing difference in the Webserver landscape.
>
> Above are my personnel views and are not intended to start any flame wars...
>
> Thank you
>
> Nitin
>
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 6:29 AM, Dave Bauer
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 1:04 PM, nitin chandra <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>
>>> Is it necessary to install OpenACS along with AoLserver?
>>
>> No. OpenACS is just one application built on the AOLserver platform.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>>
>>> Nitin
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
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>> http://www.solutiongrove.com
>>
>>
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>
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