Agreed -- this has always been one of the must unique and/or goofy aspects of
AOLserver and Tcl. I gave the keynote at the 7th (yes, 7th!) tcl/tk conference
years ago:
http://www.aolserver.com/docs/intro/tcl2k/
You could mention how this work has continued on and off over the years. In
particular, we added the "ns_ictl" command to do some of the state
capture/restore stuff and allow for various callbacks at interp and connection
state changes as Jeff mentioned. At this point I think we'd be breaking some
backwards compatibility to move further forward, e.g., relying on "package" and
"ns_ictl" entirely and dumping the various module/tcl/ stuff. But, that could
be worth it to gain more natural access to Tcl extensions which are often more
refined and useful than the crude AOLserver analogs (e.g., ns_sendmail).
The work was done for performance which was more important 10+ years ago. By
comparison, it's a fair criticism that Apache/PHP apps often re-init way too
much page after page, relying on full-page level caching and other tricks to
get closer to the performance of AOLserver/Tcl.
-Jim
On Oct 25, 2011, at 2:59 AM, Jeff Rogers wrote:
> I think from the tcl perspective the interp management is interesting.
> Interps are initialized with a startup script (created through introspection)
> and reused by multiple requests without reinitializing (cleaned up after each
> request, again using introspection).
>
> -J
>
> Matthew M. Burke wrote:
>> Later this week, the 18th Tcl/Tk conference will be held and one of the
>> sessions is a panel discussing the different ways to use Tcl to do web
>> development.
>>
>> I have been asked to discuss AOLserver and as I finish up my notes, I
>> thought I should check with the folks on this list to see if there's
>> anything that you'd recommend I mention.
>>
>> If I was more organized, I'd post my notes for folks to peruse in
>> advance. But, alas, I'm not... I will get them posted as soon as I can.
>>
>> Just to give you a rough idea of my perspective: I started using
>> AOLserver at Ars Digita in the late 90s. Since then I've used it (in
>> conjunction with .LRN) while on the faculty at St. Mary's College to
>> support my classes, and have off-and-on used it to run a few, very
>> low-traffic, personal sites.
>>
>>
>> Thanks for your advice/suggestions,
>>
>> Matt
>>
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