On Tue, Jul 05, 2011 at 03:24:09PM +0000, Francis Tyers wrote:
> El dt 05 de 07 de 2011 a les 16:49 +0200, en/na Mikel Forcada va
> escriure:
> > Hi there,
> > > I would like to attach attributes to lemmas. Only a few but maybe there
> > > could be more, so a kind of introducing an attribute name would be nice,
> > > instead of having a predefined set of attribute names..
> > Lemmas as such aren't represented as such in Apertium dictionaries. They 
> > are part of the lexical forms (one could say that the lemma is the 
> > material from the beginning of the lexical form up to where the first 
> > part-of-speech tag appears. For instance, for surface form "thought" an 
> > English dictionary would derive the lexical forms "thought<n><sg>" and 
> > "think<vblex>...". The lemmas would then be "thought" and "think". There 
> > is a attribute lm="...." in some entries, but it is optional.
> > > I believe there are already lemma attributes, such as the word class of
> > > the lemma: noun, verb, adjective, adverb etc.
> > Not for lemmas. Lemma information is encoded either as the content of 
> > the element (see above). Part of speech as well as other morphological 
> > information is encoded as attributes of the <s> (symbol element).
> > > what I have in mind is to attach data from wordnet, such as sense,
> > > hypernym, hyponum, holonym, meromnym, and also combine it with the
> > > Swedish SALDO attributes of father and mother relations.
> > >
> > > The idea is then to choose a sense of a homonym based on the shortest
> > > distance to maybe the previous and following five words.
> 
> Which language pair(s) are you working with ? Is it really necessary ? 

sv-da. I cannot get further with my work without such features - at least in a
rudymentary form.


I think it would be fun. Anyway there are of cause problems with
homonyms in swedish and danish that could be better solved with more
intelligent selection machinery.

I have about 40000 new swedish words that I have used quite some time on
and they should not damage the already existing work.

> > > a lemma may have more than one sense. Eg 'nut' may mean several things
> > > such as the offspring of a plant, nuts and bolts, and testicles.
> > >
> > > Is this easy to do? How do I do it?
> > I think the attribute lm="...." could be stretched a bit to have any 
> > value, which could be used to identify the lemma in another structure 
> > which could contain all of these (for instance, giving an XPath to 
> > another XML file containing all the desired information).
> > 
> > Perhaps it would be better to have some kind of new general purpose 
> > attribute that could be used to attach *standoff* information of this 
> > kind to any entry <e>.
> 
> I think that might be nice... also for, for example verb valency or
> other features that we don't necessarily want to represent with tags.

But maybe we can just do it with tags. Is it possible to add arbitrary
tags?

> > Fran is working on lexical selection and I'm sure his opinion would be 
> > interesting to read!
> 
> Could also use the attribute 'c' for comment. 

I think it would be misleading to call it a comment. Maybe <a> -
attribute?

> 
> in the instance that a word has the same lemma/pos/gender and different
> paradigms/declensions, I use a pseudo lemma, for example from Russian:
> 
>     <e lm="????????"><i>????????</i><par n="????????__n_m_nn"/></e>
>     <e lm="????????"><p><l>????????</l><r>????????:1</r></p><par
> n="??????__n_m_aa"/></e>

I would then still need a way to disambiguate and chose the right one.

best regards
Keld

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