Hello,
I was making some tests on Apertium AWI and I encountered some of the
problems mentioned in this document:
http://www.mt-archive.info/FreeRBMT-2011-Vie.pdf
I tried to modify some translated text but I could not delete some words,
is this what "undeletable characters generated by the formatted document
handling module" (page 50) is referring to? Is there a way of overcoming
this problem?
I also tried to use a TMX file (generated by Apertium AWI) but I could not
translate a short text using it. On page 50 I can also read "A quite
important progress with benefiting from user input would be being able to
reuse TMXs of successful translations when making a new one. Unfortunately,
the Apertium TMX compiler isn’t quite usable yet" Is this still true? I
also found that people were working on Apertium AWI for last year's GSoC,
did they solve any of these issues?
I am using Firefox 11.0 on Mac OS X Lion.
Thank you very much for your help,
José Emilio
2012/4/6 José Emilio Muñoz <[email protected]>
> Thank you very much. I have now submitted my application.
>
>
> El 05/04/2012, a las 02:47, Luis Villarejo escribió:
>
> Hello José,
>
> thank you for your interesting comments on the task. Below you will find
> my notes on your comments.
>
> 2012/4/5 José Emilio Muñoz López <[email protected]>
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am really interested in joining Apertium to participate in the Google
>> Summer of Code. I am a 2nd year Electronics and Computer Science student at
>> the University of Edinburgh.
>>
>> I find the task described at the title of this thread particularly
>> appealing. I have read its description on the GSoC ideas page, and I have
>> some doubts and thoughts I would like to discuss here.
>>
>> The information we want to extract from the log files, would it be used
>> to automatically generate new translation rules? or would it be presented
>> (perhaps in some summarised form, for example giving the most
>> frequent/significant changes) to someone in charge of the translation
>> rules?
>>
>
> We can think of both things. Dealing with rules is not always
> understandable for most users, so a summarized form may be interesting. And
> once the rule is validated, the automatic generation of the rule in the
> Apertium format would be very interesting. Take into account that we may
> generate new rules that could conflict with existing ones, we must also
> think on that.
>
>
>>
>> Would it be possible to use statistical tools on this information? For
>> example, we could calculate the probability of the correctness of a word in
>> a given context. If the users always change a given translated word when it
>> occurs in a certain context, then the engine could use this information to
>> improve future translations. In this way the generation of new rules could
>> be automated in some way. Is this a sensible idea?
>>
>
> I think we should rely on statistical thresholds to filter the information
> we want to deal with.
>
>
>>
>> However this task seems to concentrate on the data mining rather than on
>> its potential uses, is this right?
>>
>
> the approach should be complete, we should think in both things.
>
>
>> in what ways should this information be presented? Would the graphical
>> environment (described in the task page) be similar to the way Google
>> translate works at the moment, where users get a drop down list of popular
>> alternatives when they click on a word?
>>
>
> I am not really seeing this kind of interaction for this task. The
> interaction you describe is the one that takes place when users use the AWI
> and select the correct words for their translations. I think this task
> should concentrate on extracting valuable information from the post-edition
> logs and then explore the ways to trasnform it into valuable material to
> improve the Apertium engine.
>
>
>>
>> I am not sure about this, but why does Apertium AWI not seem to support
>> all of Apertium language pairs?
>>
>
> It is just a matter of installing other pairs in the server.
>
>
>>
>> What programming languages would I need to help develop this task? What
>> would you recommend me to do in order to gain a better understanding of
>> Apertium and this task?
>>
>
> The task would require from knowledge of scripting language, a little bit
> of XML to understand apertium rules and dictionaries and whatever would be
> useful to build a small environment where the user could interact with the
> extracted information and generate rules or dictionary entries.
>
> Best,
> Luis
>
>
>>
>> Please ask me any information you may need. More details on my
>> programming knowledge and past experiences can be found in the thread
>> "GSoC" posted by Jacob Nordfalk on 2012-04-02 (
>> https://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=CAKckPXZF0Bq_PWkk9s1rzFtZN%3DQ9s254fnQgWDgBwx35weU0kA%40mail.gmail.com&forum_name=apertium-stuff
>> )
>>
>> Thank you very much for your help,
>> José Emilio Muñoz
>>
>>
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