Per, you can also make a list of the words and send to Keld and I and we
can put the right paradigm on them. Keld or I could do that relatively fast
for the monodix (and then you would have to edit the bidix to make the
gender match)
Jacob
2012/9/10 Bernard Chardonneau <[email protected]>
> > X-Mailer: Evolution 3.2.2-1+b1
> > Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 08:13:26 +0000
> > From: Francis Tyers <[email protected]>
> > To: [email protected]
> > Reply-To: [email protected], [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [Apertium-stuff] Danish - Swedish Nouns
>
> > El dl 10 de 09 de 2012 a les 09:51 +0200, en/na Per Tunedal va escriure:
> > > Hi,
> > > I happened to add some nouns to the dictionaries but got into troubles:
> > > I don't know anything at all of danish grammar. I cannot specify gender
> > > nor choose an appropriate paradigm.
> > >
> > > Exemples: veranda-veranda (veranda/porch), åra-åre (oar).
> > >
> > > Are there any available dictionaries on the internet that supply the
> > > needed information?
> >
> > Sometimes you'll find it on Wiktionary:
> >
> > http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/veranda#Noun_3
> >
> > http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%C3%A5re#Danish
> >
> > F.
> >
> >
>
> After finding the gender, and also the plural form, you may have to
> chose between dozens of paradigms (the same for Swedish, or any birth
> language).
>
> For that, I made a shell counting how often the different paradigms are
> used in a monodix :
>
> #!/bin/bash
>
> fgrep "<e lm=" $1 |
> sed "s/.*n=\"//
> s/\".*//" | sort | uniq -c | sort -rn
>
> $1 is the name of the monodix, and if you want to keep only paradigms
> for nouns, just add | grep "_n$" at the end.
>
> The script works, with word descriptions <e lm=...>....</e>
> on one line. If it is not the case for every word, change it.
>
> After that, you will see for every big categories of word (nouns,
> proper nouns, adjectives, verbs), really few paraddigms are used
> very often (about 3 main paradigms, and not far from every word of
> the category with 5 paradigms).
>
> So let examinate what is written in these main paradigms (gender +
> plural form). Your new words may have a good probability to mach
> one of these main paradigms. If not, go further on the list.
> In that case, let wach paradigms with a name like root/suffix__n
> (there will be a / in the name). If you find a paradigm with a
> suffix matching the last letters of your noun (for singular form),
> it may be the good one.
>
>
>
>
>
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