Hi, Interesting. I've done some google-ing on word sense disambiguation but I still don't fully understand what is "shortest distance to surrounding words". Please explain or give me some links! Yours, Per Tunedal
On Mon, Oct 8, 2012, at 12:48, [email protected] wrote: > Oh, well, We have open source wordnet ressources for Danish, Swedish and > English, > at least, (these are languages that I am primarily interested in. > > And yes, there are different opinions on how effective wordnet ressources > are - but anyway some of us are just here for the fun of it, and willing > to > try out some experiments. My problem is just that I do not know the > intrinsics of Apertium, so I don't know where to start to build > an extra module. And then I have problems finding the time... > > I don't think it would require big ressources. The wordnet data is there > already for Danish and Swedish (da and sv - I use ISO 639 codes here). > So it is just to make the monodix'es with adequate representation of the > father and morher > relations form the Swedish and Danish wordnets, and then to make a module > that for homonyms chose the best fit form some chriteria,, say shortest > distance > to surrounding words for the homonym. It should be less than 100 lines > for such a module. > > Best regards > keld > > On Sun, Oct 07, 2012 at 11:02:51PM +0000, Francis Tyers wrote: > > I'm not working on anything regarding WordNet. The problem with WordNet > > is that few languages have one -- at least not a free one, and it takes > > quite a bit of effort to make, and is of doubtful use anyway (the sense > > distinctions tend to be too fine for good lexical selection). -- I don't > > remember the last time I read a paper where they actually got WordNet to > > help improve an MT system. > > > > I'm more interested in methods requiring few resources. For example, > > monolingual corpora, small parallel corpora. > > > > Fran > > > > El dl 08 de 10 de 2012 a les 00:53 +0200, en/na [email protected] va > > escriure: > > > Hmm, I could certainly do something. > > > > > > But I would like to retain some of the extra info from the wordnet-like > > > terms relations from the SALDO project, like the mother and father > > > relations. > > > > > > I would then later like to make some selection module based on the > > > relations, something like for homonyms choose the homonym with the > > > shortest distance > > > to the surrounding maybe 10 words. I think we could reduce errors to 1/3 > > > of the > > > current situation. > > > > > > I don't know if this is related to Fran's Ph.D. but it could look like it. > > > > > > Best regards > > > keld > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 07, 2012 at 10:20:31PM +0200, Per Tunedal wrote: > > > > Hi again, > > > > maybe this is feasible now, in the light of the possibility to trim > > > > dictionaries? > > > > > > > > Otherwise you might add the words to a copy of the Swedish dictionnary > > > > and give it an explanatory suffix. And I might somehow find out a way to > > > > adjust it. > > > > Actually it might be better to add it to the increased Swedish > > > > dictionary from the pair Islandic (is) - Swedish (se) (or was it > > > > se-is?), instead. I suppose it wouldn't do any harm if I tried that > > > > dictionary for Swedish and Danish. The main problem right now is that > > > > there are much more words in the Danish, than in the Swedish dictionary. > > > > > > > > Yours, > > > > Per Tunedal > > > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 11, 2012, at 10:03, [email protected] wrote: > > > > > Hej Per > > > > > > > > > > I actually have about 49.000 swedish nouns from the SALDO project to > > > > > add > > > > > to the swedish dix. I would just like some way to suppress overwriting > > > > > already existing working relations for homonyms. > > > > > > > > > --snip-- > > > > > > > > > > Best regards > > > > > keld > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --snip__ > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apertium-stuff > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. 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