Pel que veig mentre vaig afegint la versió baleàrica, els problemes vénen
sobretot de formes com "record" (pri de "recordar"), que es trepitja amb el
nom. Supòs que, a la pràctica, no seria gaire greu fer que es generassin
però no s'analitzassin. Crec que, almenys per aquestes illes, es fa servir
molt més CAT com a llengua de destinació que com a llengua d'origen en el
traductor.
Per exemple, quan "van" és interpretat com una forma de "vanar" es trenquen
traduccions tan simples com "Van arribar." En aquest cas, potser seria més
bona idea suprimir "vanar" (un verb inaudit per aquí) de la versió
baleàrica.
On 27 February 2017 at 11:42, Hèctor Alòs i Font <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Hola Sergio,
>
> El canvi no m'afecta i sembla útil. Només voldria comentar que l'exemple
> que poses d'escombra i granera és exactament a l'inrevés. "Granera" és la
> forma típica dels parlars occidentals i balears, mentre que "escombra" és
> la forma habitual en central i septentrional. No sé quina forma es tria per
> generar en l'"estàndard" perquè qualsevol de les dues és bona, però
> "granera" és la bona per al valencià i balear.
>
> Cordialment,
> Hèctor
>
> 2017-02-24 19:54 GMT+03:00 Sergio Ortiz Rojas <[email protected]>:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I’m going to complete a bit the variant functionality of lt-comp.
>>
>> 1. We want to have the possibility to mark an entry with more than one
>> variant simultaneously. In XML, the way to go is to define the attribute as
>> NMTOKEN, and define variants as identifiers, space-separated in the v
>> attribute. So where now you need to do:
>>
>> <e v=“valencian”><i>escombra</i><par n=“casa”/></e>
>> <e v=“balearic”><i>escombra</i><par n=“casa”/></e>
>> <e><i>granera</i><par n=“casa/></e>
>>
>> After the modification is done, you will be able to do as well:
>>
>> <e v=“valencian balearic”><i>escombra</i><par n=“casa”/></e>
>> <e><i>granera</i><par n=“casa/></e>
>>
>> So you can compile lt-comp -v (-vr, -vl) whatever variant and it should
>> work.
>>
>> 2. And other minor change. As you know, we tend to accept (LR) everything
>> from every variant, but generate (RL) just one variant, the one we specify.
>> But some variants create problems (i.e. Balearic variant generates a lot of
>> additional homography in standard and valencian Catalan, and this problem
>> has caused its exclusion historically in Apertium), so I want to add a
>> —exclude-variant option in lt-comp to forbid explicitly variants that we
>> don’t want even to analyze. The exclusion will be nondestructive, so if the
>> entry belongs to more than one variant and at least one of them is not
>> excluded, it will be included at least as analysis (LR).
>>
>> Any suggestion/piece of advice?
>>
>> Sergio
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