I just invited you to have write access to the Apertium phenny repo :)

This is an important discussion, and one that's come up before, but it
won't be resolved in time for the election.  So, for now, the easiest
work-around is to make sure everyone who thinks and who other
contributors think should be a Commiter be granted official Commiter
status by being given write access to the appropriate repo(s).

Also, I think we should consider starting a separate
"apertium-committers" email list that's more for bureaucratic and
policy-related discussions like this and doesn't need to include
people who are just here for the language technology stuff and don't
care to be involved in policy discussions.

--
Jonathan

ср, 26 февр. 2020 г. в 13:11, Scoop Gracie <scoopgra...@gmail.com>:
>
> I have requested write access on IRC, but never got an answer.
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020, 10:09 Juan Pablo <jpm...@unizar.es> wrote:
>>
>> Rather than ammending the bylaws, wouldn't it be simpler that you (and any 
>> others that may feel sidelined) file a request to the PMC asking to be 
>> granted committer status? According to bylaw 11, this is what you need:
>>
>> Bylaw 11. Committer access is received by committing code and getting 
>> sponsorship by two existing Committers, a nominator and a seconder. Upon 
>> fulfillment of these conditions, a PMC member will give write access.
>>
>> Best,
>> Juan Pablo
>>
>> On 26/02/2020 18:09, Scoop Gracie wrote:
>>
>> May users without PMC or committer status propose a PMC vote?
>>
>> Amend Bylaw 5: "The project's Committers are responsible for the project's 
>> technical management. Committers are developers who have write access to the 
>> project's source repositories, or who have contributed code to Apertium in 
>> any meaningful and significant way in the past six months. Committers may 
>> cast binding votes on any technical discussion regarding the project."
>> Amend Bylaw 23.G: "After 7 days to amend the census, a definitive census of 
>> Committers with right to vote will be published by the Election Board. Only 
>> Committers with email addresses known to the current PMC or the Election 
>> Board will be allowed to vote."
>>
>> This would include all PR contributors, as well as devs with write access. 
>> It would also ensure that only devs we can contact are included.
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 9:04 AM Scoop Gracie <scoopgra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Well, I consider myself a fairly active contributor, but I do not have 
>>> write access to any repo. Therefore, I am excluded from voting, even though 
>>> I am just as much an Apertium developer as many of the other devs (who get 
>>> to vote). IMHO, that seems unfair.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 9:02 AM Mikel L. Forcada <m...@dlsi.ua.es> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I might be wrong, but I understood that pull requests are the way in which 
>>>> casual developers contribute. If a developer contributes through PRs in a 
>>>> sustained way, they should be named committers.
>>>>
>>>> Mikel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> El 26/2/20 a les 17:57, Scoop Gracie ha escrit:
>>>>
>>>> Because now, many contributions come through pull requests. Those 
>>>> definitions exclude any contributors who do not have write access, even if 
>>>> they have contributed significantly to Apertium.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 8:55 AM Mikel L. Forcada <m...@dlsi.ua.es> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Why is it SF-related? It talks about the project's source repositories,
>>>>> without reference to SF.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mikel
>>>>>
>>>>> El 26/2/20 a les 17:49, Scoop Gracie ha escrit:
>>>>> > That is an outdated, SF-based definition. Shouldn't developers who
>>>>> > have submitted PRs be equally eligible?
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Mikel L. Forcada  http://www.dlsi.ua.es/~mlf/
>>>>> Departament de Llenguatges i Sistemes Informàtics
>>>>> Universitat d'Alacant
>>>>> E-03690 Sant Vicent del Raspeig
>>>>> Spain
>>>>> Office: +34 96 590 9776
>>>>>
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