Hi!

Jonathan, http://turkic.apertium.org/ looks great. As I remember earlier it
used to have old, outdated versions of packages. That's why I didn't use
it. Great that you updated it and I hope you are going to keep it up to
date :) By the way, Tatar-Turkish and Tatar-English translation directions
doesn't work at all there.

Bernard, thank you for your reply. I am sure there would't be many users of
Tatar related translator taking in account that Google Translate supports
Tatar language now and its quality is very good. So don't waste your time
:) But in your site I liked morphological analyzer form, it is very
convenient and I will add a link to it in my site.

Thank you!

With best regards,
Mansur

Am So., 31. Mai 2020 um 02:20 Uhr schrieb Bernard Chardonneau <
b...@tuxfamily.org>:

> > Date: Sat, 30 May 2020 18:02:29 +0300
> > From: mansur <6688...@gmail.com>
> > To: apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Reply-To: apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Subject: Re: [Apertium-stuff] Apertium Beta Portal
> > Pièce(s) jointes(s) probable(s)>
> > Looks great, but I have some problems:
> >
> > 1. I chose translation from Tatar to any of available languages, but it
> > doesn't do anything after clicking "Translate":
> > http://apertiumtrad.tuxfamily.org/tradtexte.php
>
> The problem is Apertium tools use systems libraries and newer are the
> Apertium
> tools versions, newer are the system libraries versions required.
>
> Secondly, I don't have root access on the server, so, to prepare the
> server,
> several things that can be done easily by a apt-get for instance were done
> differently outside /usr directory
>
> It was difficult but possible for several things like autotools and
> pkg-config,
> but for several systems libraries, it does not work if they are outside
> their
> normal place, generally somewhere under /usr and the guy who created
> tuxfamily
> service was not pleased when I asked for extra system libraries.
>
> He proposed me to install a complete system and to do a chroot. That may
> be the
> solution to allow more language pairs working.
>
> >
> > 2. Is it possible to choose translation direction/settings in the url,
> for
> > example, something like
> ".../tradtexte.php?from=tatar&to=bashkir&direct". I
> > want to preselect these settings for convenience of our corpus' users.
> >
>
> Yes, there are two ways to do that.
>
> 1) Using language names :
>
> https://apertiumtrad.tuxfamily.org/tradtexte.php?mode_sel=L&trad_directe=yes&lg_source=tat&lg_cible=bak
> mode_sel=L
> <https://apertiumtrad.tuxfamily.org/tradtexte.php?mode_sel=L&trad_directe=yes&lg_source=tat&lg_cible=bakmode_sel=L>
> (the l can be lowercase) is the default value if you did not change it
> previously
>
> 2) Using translation direction
>
> https://apertiumtrad.tuxfamily.org/tradtexte.php?mode_sel=s&senstrad1=tat-bak
>
> The complete list of possible get parameters is there :
> https://apertiumtrad.tuxfamily.org/doc_param_get.php
>
> And after setting once your translation parameters,  you can also look at
> cookies to see values of these parameters.
> https://apertiumtrad.tuxfamily.org/cookies.php
>
> O avoid a very large number of language choices, you can also select a
> subset
> of languages using user preferences. And then, depending if you keep
> cookies
> after closing your web browser or not, you can save that on cookies or
> using
> an account on apertiumtrad website.
>
> If you just need the web interface but you have your language pair
> installed
> locally, there is a very similar website to download? You need a php server
> but no database.
>
> So the only problem will be to update apertium tools in order to make more
> language pairs working. If I am not the only user of this website in the
> world, that me be useful to spend time for that.
>
>
> --------------------------------
> Bernard Chardonneau (France)
> Phone : [33] 9 72 36 32 90
> GSM phone : [33] 7 69 46 16 31
>
> An alternative Apertium translation website :
> http://apertiumtrad.tuxfamily.org
>
> Multilingual websites for my free softwares :
> http://libremail.free.fr and http://libremail.tuxfamily.org
> http://cyloop.tuxfamily.org (mainly translated with Apertium)
>
> My general website (in french only)
> http://bech.free.fr
>
>
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