Hanif,

I rely on APNIC and its EC to consider the entire community/regions needs
as opposed to a vocal minority... even if that minority was just me yelling
about something.  We choose an EC whose roles transcend their home country
and become for the good of everyone they represent.

I think rather than accusations of mis-management, I'd spend some time
talking to members of the EC about why certain decisions are made.  Most of
them are more than willing to talk to you and give you their perspective -
which btw, does not always agree across all EC members...  but most of the
time they come to a consensus for the benefit of all members...


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On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 11:26 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Dave,
>
> Very good point but its a taboo at APNIC to discuss about Members fee and
> APNIC (mis) management of funds. APNIC maintains a white list and a black
> list of public contacts. You're now in their black list for raising this.
> Like many others, this discussion will end up in the no through road. The
> Executive council we selected are like the famous three wise monkeys."see
> no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil". For our representatives business is
> as usual.
>
> APNIC recently started providing training for law enforcement agencies
> using Members funds....we did not blessed either. Its a good initiative and
> I personally commend APNIC for this. However, these LEAs are government
> agencies and have big budgets. If LEAs request training APNIC must use LEAs
> budget to provide such trainings not Members funds. Its just not right!
>
> Regards
> Hanif H Mohd
> Senior Network Consultant
> PKSP, Pakistan
>
>
>
> On Saturday, 26 April 2014 at 5:44 PM, "Dave Mead" <[email protected]>
> wrote:    Paul,
>
>  Your speech at Asia Pacific Internet Leadership Program meeting is
> utterly disappointing to APNIC Members.
>
> http://www.apnic.net/publications/news/2014/icann-49-event-wrapup
>
> You said, "...Members pay fees to APNIC to support the organisation and
> the services and they don't give APNIC a blessing to spend that money in
> unlimited fashion on Internet development..."
>
>  http://audio.icann.org/meetings/singapore2014/apilp-22mar14-en.mp3
>
>  Members DID NOT BLESS APNIC to spend the fees on business class travel
> which costs 3 times more than an economy class ticket. The entire senior
> management, including your Executve Assistant and those who work for APNIC
> as consultants travel in business class contributing to the success of the
> airlines but clearly not Internet development in this region.
>
> http://www.apnic.net/about-APNIC/team
>
>  Paul, you're leading a not-for-profit organisation not a comerncial
> entity that you and your senior management can erode member funds for your
> comfortable travels across the world. This is just outrageous and
> mismanagement of Member funds.
>
>  Members like to see the Executive Council takes note of this and truely
> represent the Members to better manage their funds to contribute for the
> Internet development in this region. A lot of development work can be done
> if the funds are managed effectively not use for personal benefits.
>
>  Best
>  -Dave Mead
>
>
>
>
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