Hi Tony,
Finally, a very positive response from APNIC. Glad to know you're
following our discussion. Rest as below..........
-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Smith <[email protected]>
To: Skeeve Stevens <[email protected]>; Enrico Tam
<[email protected]>
Cc: apnic-talk <[email protected]>
Sent: Mon, Apr 28, 2014 12:20 am
Subject: Re: [apnic-talk] ICANN 49 event wrapup
Hi everyone
I wanted to jump in here and provide some information which I hope will
help in this email thread which has covered a few topics. So I hope
this
is useful:
You took a big jump here and appreciate it.
- APNIC's focus is the entire Asia-Pacific region and our track record
over the past 20+ years shows we have tried our very best to service
the
needs of the whole region from a single office. The 2013 Annual
Report,
which was released a few weeks ago, is a good way to see our activities
in the region last year as an example. You can view it here:
www.apnic.net/annualreport
APNIC is serving two continents - Asia and Oceania. Yes, as per UN,
these two are continents on their own. Please refer to
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_geoscheme
If ICANN aknowledged and recognised it cannot serve the entire world
from US and started to globalize it, how can APNIC possibly serve two
continents and assure its services are provided fairly to all those 56
countries under its management?
- Balancing that reach is our task, and the costs associated with each
approach need to be considered. Do we maintain several offices or have
one and do more travel / remote work instead? One other RIR has opted
for multiple offices but (as Skeeve pointed out) our region is unique
in
having NIRs which play important roles. The Secretariat has always
been
responsible with Member funds in executing our duties so we've opted
for
a single office + a combination of remote conferencing
technologies/travel for now.
If you here the voices clearly on this discussion, I'm affraid, your
reach and tasks are not fairly balanced among AP region. APNIC EC
representation is so so good. But, what about the representation of the
decision makers among APNIC senior management?
90% are from Oceania. This is not an equal represntation and voice from
across the AP region. Take an examle of Microsoft. There are damn good
decision makers in ASIA too who can bring APNIC closer to the community
yet maintain the equal representation.
- We think that helping LEAs understand what information is publicly
available to assist them in tackling online crime is worthwhile - not
just for helping LEAs make the Internet safer, but it also helps reduce
queries to our Member ISPs (as Rajesh noted) and APNIC. While we view
this as a positive investment of our time, the question of fees is
something to consider. It's worth mentioning that some of the LEA
training to date has been jointly funded with other technical partners,
and we do seek funding partners where possible.
Yes, I agree too. Why not all LEA tainings are jointly funded with
technical partners and tap into government budget?
- We have the APNIC Survey coming up in June so I encourage everyone to
have your say in this as it helps the Secretariat and the EC to plan
and
prioritise for the future.
Definetly!
But of course we always welcome Member discussion on this list -
apnic-talk was set up for this very purpose! So please do continue to
use the list to share your thoughts, we do read all the messages
Thanks for this postivie response and encouraging a healthy discussion.
Best,
-Dave Mead.
Thanks
Tony
On 28/04/2014 10:34 am, Skeeve Stevens wrote:
Enrico,
Are you suggesting that APNIC isn't effectively representing Asian
interests? Have you looked to see who the EC comprises?
Please check out:
http://www.apnic.net/about-APNIC/organization/structure/apnic-executive-council/ec-members
and
let me and the community know if you do not think that most of these
people are leaders from Asia who understand the local community and
developments.
Also, look at the staff breakdown of APNIC at
http://www.apnic.net/about-APNIC/team which I think very clearly
represents the economies in the region.
I really don't know how you can suggest that APNIC is not an
organisation that is heavily focused on Asia.
Personally I think all this nationalistic talk is nonsense and people
need to think of the whole community, not just their country or corner
of the community. To suggest that only asians in Asia can do the job
effectively start to take us down a path that will get very messy.
...Skeeve
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On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 9:06 AM, Enrico Tam <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi,
This is a very good discussion. In principle I agree with most of
your comments.
Lets be realistic here and continue to debate meangifully.
We are in the era of talking about IANA globalization. We have:
1. DotAsia for ASIA, located in ASIA
2. ITU office for ASIA, located in ASIA
3. ICANN Hub for ASIA, located in ASIA
4. ISOC hub for ASIA, located in ASIA
5. APT for ASIA, located in ASIA
Where is the RIR for ASIA? I think we're clearly missing out on
our
identity with not having an RIR for ASIA located in ASIA. Let's
not
talk about a regional office for South Asia, Sout East Asia, East
Asia...this may not work for us with such a diverse region.
Lets concentrate our efforts to have an ASIAN RIR that is headed
by
and managed by Leaders from ASIA who understands our community and
the developments.
Regards
Enrico Tam
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From: [email protected]
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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 08:42:05 +1000
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
CC: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [apnic-talk] ICANN 49 event wrapup
As I pointed out before... APNIC is the only RIR that has the
concept of NIR's. I think that NIR's address the needs of local
resources where required.
Any concept of regional offices should also be free as possible
from
travel restrictions and people accessing any resources. This is
not
the case in many countries in our region, which is why an NIR
structure is far more suitable.
...Skeeve
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On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 4:18 AM, Aftab Siddiqui
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote:
Rajesh Sb,
Why can’t APNIC has an regional office in Islamabad or
Dakha ?
Thats an interesting point. If you can recall, RIPE NCC opened
up its regional office in Dubai this year specifically to
target
middle-east region. South Asian region can have APNIC's
regional
office too.
Regards,
Aftab A. Siddiqui
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