Hi Ronald,

Thank you and duly noted your suggestions. We'll be in touch with you if more 
details are needed.

Regards,
Sanjaya
APNIC Deputy Director General

-----Original Message-----
From: Ronald F. Guilmette <[email protected]> 
Sent: Tuesday, 4 February 2020 2:59 PM
To: Sanjaya Sanjaya <[email protected]>
Cc: mailman_APNIC-talk <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [apnic-talk] The Great AFRINIC Heist -- The Enablers

In message 
<ty2pr04mb3071cd402ad6a04083e85e74b1...@ty2pr04mb3071.apcprd04.prod.outlook.com>,
 you wrote:

>Thank you for sharing this information. Where the ASN holder has an 
>account relationship with APNIC, we will notify them of this post and 
>ask them to review their advertised prefixes against your list here.

Thank you Sanjaya.  I would greatly appreciate it if APNIC would contact all of 
the relevant networks and tell tnem in no uncertain terms that they are routing 
stolen space and that they should cease doing that immediately.
Please DO NOT beat around the bush with them.  That will only make matters 
worse.  You need to tell them point blank that they are routing stolen space.  
If none of the information on this large theft from AFRINIC that has appeared 
in the press is enough to convince you that I am right about 100% of this, then 
please contact me off list and I will more than happy to show you the 
persuasive and overwhelming evidence of what has happened with respect to each 
stolen block in turn.

I have to be honest and say that it is exceptionally frustrating for me to have 
already done all of the careful analysis to prove the case with respect to each 
and every one of the stolen AFRINIC blocks, and to have already had most or all 
of this painstaking analysis appear in the public news media, and for me to 
have also posted here, and elsewhere, a list of those networks that are 
actively participating in further enriching the criminals behind all of these 
thefts, only to look again, days later, and see that nothing at all has changed 
in the slightest.

This is the level of responsiveness that one expects from the Wuhan city 
government, but I had expected better of the Internet community as a whole, and 
the APNIC community in particular.  In short, I am totally disappointed by what 
is clearly a world-wide non-response to the revelations that AFRINIC had a 
crooked insider who stole a masive amount of valuable IPv4 space from that 
organization and from its legacy holders.  I am even more disappointed
at the utter lack of response within the APNIC region.   Of the 63 different
networks listed in the updated list below, fully 24 of them... well over 1/3rd 
of the total... are APNIC region networks.  And of the top eight offenders who 
are still routing stolen AFRINIC space, four of those eight are in the APNIC 
region.

As reported in the press and on AFRINIC mailing lists, when it became apparent 
to AFRINIC that it had been massively victimized, AFRINIC called on officials 
from APNIC to help them to asses the damage and try to figure out exactly what 
had gone wrong.  Obviously APNIC was being treated by AFRINIC almost as a 
friendly and helpful big brother.  But so far, as evidenced below, the entire 
APNIC region is NOT helping AFRINIC and is only perpetuating this ongoing 
problem.  For this utter lack of helpfulness a fair amount of shame should fall 
on the entire APNIC "community".


  3453  0       ??  UNROUTED IP SPACE
   629  132165  PK  Connect Communication
   512  18013   HK  Asline Limited
   504  19969   US  Joe's Datacenter, LLC
   500  62355   CO  Network Dedicated SAS
   423  202425  SC  IP Volume inc
   286  58895   PK  Ebone Network (PVT.) Limited
   250  136525  PK  Wancom (Pvt) Ltd.
   192  18530   US  Isomedia, Inc.
   186  9009    GB  M247 Ltd
   134  262287  BR  Maxihost LTDA
   132  204655  NL  Novogara LTD
    78  132116  IN  Ani Network Pvt Ltd
    77  136384  PK  Optix Pakistan (Pvt.) Limited
    68  132422  HK  Hong Kong Business Telecom Limited
    60  137443  HK  Anchnet Asia Limited
    48  63956   AU  Colocation Australia Pty Ltd
    26  132335  IN  LeapSwitch Networks Pvt Ltd
    24  131284  AF  Etisalat Afghan
    20  139043  PK  WellNetworks (Private) Limited
    19  43092   JP  OSOA Corporation., LTD
    17  36351   US  SoftLayer Technologies Inc.
    16  23679   ID  Media Antar Nusa PT.
    16  199267  IL  Netstyle A. Ltd
    16  56611   NL  REBA Communications BV
    14  137085  IN  Nixi
    10  63018   US  Dedicated.com
     9  136782  JP  Pingtan Hotline Co., Limited
     8  45671   AU  Servers Australia Pty. Ltd
     8  57717   NL  FiberXpress BV
     7  134451  SG  NewMedia Express Pte Ltd
     7  49335   RU  LLC "Server v arendy"
     6  135223  IN  Netway Internet Pvt Ltd
     6  49367   IT  Seflow S.N.C. Di Marco Brame' & C.
     6  26754   ??  {{unknown organization}}
     5  198381  AE  Star Satellite Communications Company - PJSC
     5  198504  AE  Star Satellite Communications Company - PJSC
     4  263812  AR  TL Group SRL ( IPXON Networks )
     4  42831   GB  UK Dedicated Servers Limited
     4  133495  PK  Vision telecom Private limited
     4  37200   NG  SimbaNET Nigeria Limited
     4  30827   GB  Extraordinary Managed Services Ltd
     4  38001   SG  NewMedia Express Pte Ltd
     4  198394  AE  Star Satellite Communications Company - PJSC
     2  31122   IE  Digiweb ltd
     2  11990   US  Unlimited Net, LLC
     2  45382   KR  Ehostict
     2  328096  UG  truIT Uganda Limited
     2  53999   CA  Priority Colo Inc
     2  44066   DE  First Colo GmbH
     2  46562   US  Total Server Solutions L.L.C.
     2  17216   US  Dc74 Llc
     2  198247  AE  Star Satellite Communications Company - PJSC
     2  13737   US  Riverfront Internet Systems LLC
     2  38713   PK  Satcomm (Pvt.) Ltd.
     2  133933  PK  NetSat Private Limited
     2  20860   GB  Iomart Cloud Services Limited
     1  2905    ZA  Mtn Sa
     1  203833  DE  First Colo GmbH
     1  43945   IL  Netstyle A. Ltd
     1  23470   US  ReliableSite.Net LLC
     1  19832   ZA  Link Data Group
     1  35074   NG  Cobranet Limited
     1  134917  IN  Ragsaa Communication pvt. ltd.
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