Dear Sivasubramanian,

My name is Sofía. I'm the Product Manager for the Internet Directory.

There is no max limit for the number of entries in the spreadsheet. If you are 
interested in the Holders list for IPv4 resources in India, I would recommend 
selecting India in the left side menu (either by clicking on India in the 
hierarchical menu or by entering India in the search field) and then selecting 
the IPv4 tab in the grey area on the top of the screen. This will show a table 
with 416 pages. I have just downloaded it and I got 6,233 rows in the 
spreadsheet. I do see Bharti Airtel in the spreadsheet, so I'm wondering 
whether you had some other filter applied to the Holders table you were 
visualizing? 

I hope this helps.

Warm regards,
Sofía

On 13/5/20, 11:59 am, "[email protected] on behalf of 
sivasubramanian muthusamy" <[email protected] on behalf of 
[email protected]> wrote:

    Dear Tony Smith,

















    On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 6:07 AM Tony Smith <[email protected]> wrote:


    Hi Sivasubramanian,

    Logging in with an APNIC Login to the Internet Directory link will allow 
you to see the Holders view which offers a table with more information about 
entities that hold space in an economy and what space they hold. An APNIC login 
is free and easy to set up.
    
https://beta-login.apnic.net/auth/realms/apnic/login-actions/registration?client_id=internet-directory&tab_id=Za5Rf2MDDr0

    However APNIC does not have data about how the IP addresses are used, 
especially in terms of NAT and dynamic addresses.






    Thank you :) It worked. APNIC maintains good transparency. Downloaded a 
holder's view spread sheet with 5000 entries (Spreadsheet max limit ?) with 
5000 entries, of which I could see none that said Airtel or Bharti Airtel, 
which is strange, and of the
     remaining out of the 5000 entries in this possibly truncated sheet, 3707 
entries were that of NIXI, mostly /22s, less than a hundred or so entries 
showed Jio, about a hundred for Tatas, and others were mostly business 
enterprises, about seventy or eighty of
     them.  As the table showed a combined view of v4, v6 and ASNs, and showed 
/24 - 16s all in one column, there is no way of totalling the allocation, 
especially due to the possibility that this is truncated data.  And, as you 
have observed, there is no indication
     of how the IP addresses were reassigned and to how many different networks 
/ nodes (the total number of unique networks with static IP addresses in 
India).  Probably the same level of data in all RIRs.  


    I got into some detail here, but the purpose is not to focus on a few ISPs 
/ Exchanges,  but rather to see if there is a general tendency (everywhere) to 
retain IP addresses by the holders within their network rather than to reallot 
a fair number of the
     addresses.


    Thank you.



    Thanks
    Tony


    From: sivasubramanian muthusamy <[email protected]>
    Date: Tuesday, 12 May 2020 at 4:41 pm
    To: Tony Smith <[email protected]>
    Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
    Subject: Re: [apnic-talk] Fwd: Apnic fees for IPv4 / v6

    Thank you. The link pointed me to the information I was looking for, and I 
could get to the spreadsheet attached. But the data does not contain any 
information about what happens after the IPv4 addresses are assigned by APNIC 
(or other RIRs). Is there any data
     available, or some form of assessment about how many unique / static 
assignees are in India, and what portion of these allocations are retained by 
the large networks and used by NAT and other means as dynamic addresses?



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    On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 11:47 AM Tony Smith <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
    Hi Sivasubramanian,

    You may find the delegation statistics available here useful.  There’s 
several data visualisation tools and the data is downloadable: 

    https://directory.apnic.net/delegations/Southern 
<https://directory.apnic.net/delegations/Southern> Asia/IN

    Thanks
    Tony



    From: <mailto:[email protected]> on behalf of 
sivasubramanian muthusamy <mailto:[email protected]>
    Date: Tuesday, 12 May 2020 at 4:09 pm
    To: "mailto:[email protected]"; <mailto:[email protected]>
    Subject: [apnic-talk] Fwd: Apnic fees for IPv4 / v6


    ---------- Forwarded message ---------
    From: sivasubramanian muthusamy <mailto:[email protected]>
    Date: Thu, May 7, 2020, 19:25
    Subject: Apnic fees for IPv4 / v6
    To: <mailto:[email protected]>

    Is there any published data on the total size of IP addresses allotted, for 
instance, to networks in India and the number of 'unique assignees' in India? 


    Thank you.

    Sivasubramanian M






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