Thank you for confirming. The display issue is at my end, will solve it
without difficulty.


Thank you.

On Fri, May 15, 2020, 05:24 Sofia Silva Berenguer <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks for the heads-up Sivasubramanian!
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> I'm sorry I cannot help you further as I cannot reproduce your issue. I do
> see more than 5,000 rows in the file you attached.
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> Warm regards,
> Sofía
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> On 13/5/20, 5:17 pm, "sivasubramanian muthusamy" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
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>     Dear Sofia,
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>     Replied as below, with an attachment, but the attachment did not go
> through. Must have reached your personal mail box.   In any case please see
> below. It is most likely that it is NOT your mistake.
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>     Thank you
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>     On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 11:25 AM sivasubramanian muthusamy <
> [email protected]> wrote:
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>     Dear Sofia,
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>     If it is working for you, the limitations I have experienced were
> because of the steps I had to follow in opening the file.  I was on India
> specific view, though the URL didn't say India (
> https://stats.apnic.net/holders/Southern%20Asia/IN ),
>      the file did not open in my Android phone, downloaded it on a Chrome
> Book from that India specific page with the page title "Summary Holder
> Information for India", the file downloaded with the name
> "summary_holder-info-for-southern asia"  without the filetype
>      in the file name, I renamed it summary_holder-info-for-southern
> asia.csv, opened it with Google Sheets, which shows  132755 in Column Q as
> the last entry. The file as I downloaded and renamed is attached, I
> downloaded it once again now, followed the same process
>      by giving the file extension .xls, Google Docs still shows the 5000th
> row as the last row, so this must be a limitation on the cloud.
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>     On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 9:26 AM Sofia Silva Berenguer <[email protected]>
> wrote:
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>     Dear Sivasubramanian,
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>     My name is Sofía. I'm the Product Manager for the Internet Directory.
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>     There is no max limit for the number of entries in the spreadsheet. If
> you are interested in the Holders list for IPv4 resources in India, I would
> recommend selecting India in the left side menu (either by clicking on
> India in the hierarchical menu or by entering
>      India in the search field) and then selecting the IPv4 tab in the
> grey area on the top of the screen. This will show a table with 416 pages.
> I have just downloaded it and I got 6,233 rows in the spreadsheet. I do see
> Bharti Airtel in the spreadsheet, so I'm
>      wondering whether you had some other filter applied to the Holders
> table you were visualizing?
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>     I hope this helps.
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>     Warm regards,
>     Sofía
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>     On 13/5/20, 11:59 am, "[email protected] on behalf
> of sivasubramanian muthusamy" <[email protected]
>      on behalf of [email protected]> wrote:
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>         Dear Tony Smith,
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>         On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 6:07 AM Tony Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
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>         Hi Sivasubramanian,
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>         Logging in with an APNIC Login to the Internet Directory link will
> allow you to see the Holders view which offers a table with more
> information about entities that hold space in an economy and what space
> they hold. An APNIC login is free and easy to set
>      up.
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> https://beta-login.apnic.net/auth/realms/apnic/login-actions/registration?client_id=internet-directory&tab_id=Za5Rf2MDDr0
> <
> https://beta-login.apnic.net/auth/realms/apnic/login-actions/registration?client_id=internet-directory&tab_id=Za5Rf2MDDr0
> >
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>         However APNIC does not have data about how the IP addresses are
> used, especially in terms of NAT and dynamic addresses.
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>         Thank you :) It worked. APNIC maintains good transparency.
> Downloaded a holder's view spread sheet with 5000 entries (Spreadsheet max
> limit ?) with 5000 entries, of which I could see none that said Airtel or
> Bharti Airtel, which is strange, and of the
>          remaining out of the 5000 entries in this possibly truncated
> sheet, 3707 entries were that of NIXI, mostly /22s, less than a hundred or
> so entries showed Jio, about a hundred for Tatas, and others were mostly
> business enterprises, about seventy or eighty
>      of
>          them.  As the table showed a combined view of v4, v6 and ASNs,
> and showed /24 - 16s all in one column, there is no way of totalling the
> allocation, especially due to the possibility that this is truncated data.
> And, as you have observed, there is no indication
>          of how the IP addresses were reassigned and to how many different
> networks / nodes (the total number of unique networks with static IP
> addresses in India).  Probably the same level of data in all RIRs.
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>         I got into some detail here, but the purpose is not to focus on a
> few ISPs / Exchanges,  but rather to see if there is a general tendency
> (everywhere) to retain IP addresses by the holders within their network
> rather than to reallot a fair number of the
>          addresses.
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>         Thank you.
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>         Thanks
>         Tony
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>         From: sivasubramanian muthusamy <[email protected]>
>         Date: Tuesday, 12 May 2020 at 4:41 pm
>         To: Tony Smith <[email protected]>
>         Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>         Subject: Re: [apnic-talk] Fwd: Apnic fees for IPv4 / v6
>
>         Thank you. The link pointed me to the information I was looking
> for, and I could get to the spreadsheet attached. But the data does not
> contain any information about what happens after the IPv4 addresses are
> assigned by APNIC (or other RIRs). Is there any
>      data
>          available, or some form of assessment about how many unique /
> static assignees are in India, and what portion of these allocations are
> retained by the large networks and used by NAT and other means as dynamic
> addresses?
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>     https://www.linkedin.com/in/sivasubramanianmuthusamy/ <
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/sivasubramanianmuthusamy/>
>         mailto:[email protected]
>         http://twitter.com/shivaindia
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>         On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 11:47 AM Tony Smith <mailto:[email protected]>
> wrote:
>         Hi Sivasubramanian,
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>         You may find the delegation statistics available here useful.
> There’s several data visualisation tools and the data is downloadable:
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>     https://directory.apnic.net/delegations/Southern <
> https://directory.apnic.net/delegations/Southern> <
> https://directory.apnic.net/delegations/Southern> Asia/IN
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>         Thanks
>         Tony
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>         From: <mailto:[email protected]> on behalf of
> sivasubramanian muthusamy <mailto:[email protected]>
>         Date: Tuesday, 12 May 2020 at 4:09 pm
>         To: "mailto:[email protected]"; <mailto:
> [email protected]>
>         Subject: [apnic-talk] Fwd: Apnic fees for IPv4 / v6
>
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>         ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>         From: sivasubramanian muthusamy <mailto:[email protected]>
>         Date: Thu, May 7, 2020, 19:25
>         Subject: Apnic fees for IPv4 / v6
>         To: <mailto:[email protected]>
>
>         Is there any published data on the total size of IP addresses
> allotted, for instance, to networks in India and the number of 'unique
> assignees' in India?
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>         Thank you.
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>         Sivasubramanian M
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