Jordi is right. This policy requires the IRT email not to be filtered or require the use of forms to report spam or similar network abuse activities. We will follow this request up with the Member. As a reminder to everyone on the list, the most efficient way to alert APNIC to IRT email issues such as this is to report them via the IRT escalation web form. https://www.apnic.net/manage-ip/using-whois/abuse-and-spamming/report-invalid-or-unresponsivle-irt-emails-prop-125/
Thanks Vivek On 21/10/21, 3:59 pm, "[email protected] on behalf of JORDI PALET MARTINEZ" <[email protected] on behalf of [email protected]> wrote: Hi Ronald, If I understood your email on this case correctly, this is not just a matter of education, but also a clear policy violation: https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.apnic.net%2Fcommunity%2Fpolicy%2Fproposals%2Fprop-125&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cb8d0ae01baec4441848308d99457cdcd%7C127d8d0d7ccf473dab096e44ad752ded%7C0%7C0%7C637703927846466047%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=BIlTva4ueE0A5lcsvQZLpFQU3JwuBZ9%2FQtQt8pKMX%2F8%3D&reserved=0 Regards, Jordi @jordipalet El 21/10/21 5:12, "Ronald F. Guilmette" <[email protected] en nombre de [email protected]> escribió: I received a spam today from [43.224.36.113] which is being routed by AS9873 - Lao Telecommunication Co Ltd. The APNIC WHOIS record for this network indicates that [email protected] is the email address to which such incidents may be reported. In general, network operators do not act on spam reports unless and until they have actually seen the spam message in question, including all of the relevant email headers. This is both prudent and reasonable. Unfortunately, this network, and also many others, have failed to configure their abuse reporting mailboxes in a manner so as to allow the text of spam messages to be accepted via those reporting addresses. The results in such cases are predictable, and are examplified by the bounce message shown here: https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpastebin.com%2Fraw%2FLX98NhcD&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cb8d0ae01baec4441848308d99457cdcd%7C127d8d0d7ccf473dab096e44ad752ded%7C0%7C0%7C637703927846466047%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=jIEjdkF7Zcf8L7q1fYfWs%2FpY4gTM7rnamMpuV%2F9pQKs%3D&reserved=0 I would like to just express my hope that, as part of its ongoing educational efforts, APNIC will work to educate its members regarding this common issue/problem. It is all well and good to have abuse reporting addresses associated with IP blocks and ASNs in the WHOIS records, but if those reporting addresses are improperly configured, then they will have limited usefulness. Regards, rfg P.S. 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