Auctions are the easiest way to provide the transparency to the market that people have been asking for since IP addresses first began to trade. Buyers and sellers and other intermediaries can learn in real time how prices are trending and can make informed decisions about how to best allocate their own scarce resources. Additionally, the auction platform is the only way we could address the demand for small blocks. We continually get inquiries for smaller block sizes, from buyers and sellers, that we cannot handle manually as it is too time consuming for us. The auction platform does not work for everyone in every circumstance, and so we continue to offer our private treaty sale process that we have offered successfully since 2011.
Amy From: Mark Mahle [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 6:10 PM To: Skeeve Stevens Cc: Daniel Watson; Potter, Amy; [email protected] Subject: Re: [apnic-transfers] IPv4Auctions.com Launches February 17th On the other hand, if the auction process is transparent and public it can help set reasonable market price expectations for IPv4 addresses, and even set a standard for transactional fees. Based on personal experience prices and fees quoted from brokers vary wildly- to the point that I'd expect some brokers significantly increase costs in order to bolster commissions. No different from any other commission based transaction really. Also interesting would be historical and other data based on the auctions that is updated in real time to keep a barometer on the market based on various metrics. (cost / Size of block / source & destination transfer region / etc.) Thanks, Mark ________________________________ From: "Skeeve Stevens" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> To: "Daniel Watson" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Cc: "Amy Potter" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 4, 2014 2:56:36 PM Subject: Re: [apnic-transfers] IPv4Auctions.com Launches February 17th I don't so much have an issue with fees... reasonable ones. We charge a fee to the seller when we bring a buyer and seller together... it is no different in selling a house or anything else like that. But, there is the potential for excessive fees if people aren't aware of what they could/should be paying. ...Skeeve Skeeve Stevens - eintellego Networks Pty Ltd [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> ; www.eintellegonetworks.com<http://www.eintellegonetworks.com/> Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve facebook.com/eintellegonetworks<http://facebook.com/eintellegonetworks> ; linkedin.com/in/skeeve<http://linkedin.com/in/skeeve> twitter.com/theispguy<http://twitter.com/theispguy> ; blog: www.theispguy.com<http://www.theispguy.com/> [http://eintellegonetworks.com/logos/ein09.png] The Experts Who The Experts Call Juniper - Cisco - Cloud - Consulting - IPv4 Brokering On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 9:18 AM, Daniel Watson <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I completely agree with you 100% Skeeve +1 Not to mention the fees that the auctioneer's would gain out of this... Regards, Daniel Watson Network Administrator / Network Operations Manager E [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> W www.GloVine.com.au<http://www.GloVine.com.au> "No trees were harmed in the making of this email, however a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced." ________________________________ From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] on behalf of Skeeve Stevens [[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 9:17 AM To: Potter, Amy Cc: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [apnic-transfers] IPv4Auctions.com Launches February 17th Personally, I believe Auctions just a way to maximise the profit for the seller at the moment, with no benefit for the buyers. I think a personally negotiated method, where the seller and buyer can come to a mutual agreement is far more appropriate at the moment. Though, as scarcity sets in, I think auctions will be the way things will go... but I don't believe pushing us to that method yet is a good thing for those really in need. ...Skeeve *** eintellego Networks - the only IPv4 Broker located in the APNIC region *** Skeeve Stevens - eintellego Networks Pty Ltd [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> ; www.eintellegonetworks.com<http://www.eintellegonetworks.com/> Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve facebook.com/eintellegonetworks<http://facebook.com/eintellegonetworks> ; linkedin.com/in/skeeve<http://linkedin.com/in/skeeve> twitter.com/theispguy<http://twitter.com/theispguy> ; blog: www.theispguy.com<http://www.theispguy.com/> The Experts Who The Experts Call Juniper - Cisco - Cloud - Consulting - IPv4 Brokering On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 9:13 AM, Potter, Amy <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Hilco Streambank’s new online auction platform for IPv4 address blocks launches February 17th. IPv4Auctions.com will bring together buyers and sellers of IPv4 address blocks in APNIC, ARIN and RIPE to complete simple, transparent and efficient sales and transfers. IPv4 address blocks listed on IPv4Auctions.com will range in size from /24s all the way up to /17s. To list your blocks on IPv4Auctions.com or register to bid in our auctions opening February 17th, please contact us. Amy Potter Director Hilco Streambank [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Jack Hazan Executive Vice President Hilco Streambank [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> _______________________________________________ apnic-transfers mailing list [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> http://mailman.apnic.net/mailman/listinfo/apnic-transfers _______________________________________________ apnic-transfers mailing list [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> http://mailman.apnic.net/mailman/listinfo/apnic-transfers
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