Hello Geoff and all,

Thank you for pointing it out, I must say I don't read many of the until
you brought this up.

I also wonder if someone is seeing what you have mentioned. Again, this
week shows similar thing with these updating about two-times per minute:

TOP 20 Unstable Prefixes
Rank Prefix             Upds     % Origin AS -- AS Name
 1 - 93.181.192.0/19   22303  0.6%   AS13118 -- ASN-YARTELECOM
Verhnevolzhsky branch, RU
 2 - 110.170.17.0/24   22036  0.6%   AS134438 -- AIRAAIFUL-AS-AP Aira &
Aiful Public Company Limited, TH
 3 - 103.242.52.0/22   20105  0.6%   AS131390 -- ECOMVIET-AS-VN Vietnam
E-commerce Development Centre, VN


As you have mentioned that generally no more dampening. It would be nice if
someone could contact these operators and let them know. Is there a
mechanism in place in contacting the admin of these AS/prefixes or their
upstream? Should there be one?

I also wonder about the general cause of these high-frequency updates. Is
it from router processing overload, bug in the router, simply poor
connectivity or other reasons?

ram



On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 4:22 AM, Geoff Huston <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> > On 19 Jun 2016, at 6:05 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 17 Jun 2016, [email protected] wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> TOP 20 Unstable Prefixes
> >> Rank Prefix             Upds     % Origin AS -- AS Name
> >> 1 - 202.65.32.0/21    28086  0.8%   AS10131 -- CKTELECOM-CK-AP Telecom
> Cook Islands, CK
> >> 2 - 110.170.17.0/24   21868  0.7%   AS134438 -- AIRAAIFUL-AS-AP Aira &
> Aiful Public Company Limited, TH
> >> 3 - 123.231.192.0/24  21562  0.7%   AS133841 -- IDOLA-BROADBAND-AS-ID
> INDONESIA BROADBAND ACCESS - ANYWHERE, ID
> >> 4 - 93.181.192.0/19   20895  0.6%   AS13118 -- ASN-YARTELECOM
> Verhnevolzhsky branch, RU
> >> 5 - 123.231.206.0/24  19170  0.6%   AS133841 -- IDOLA-BROADBAND-AS-ID
> INDONESIA BROADBAND ACCESS - ANYWHERE, ID
> >> 6 - 123.231.193.0/24  19082  0.6%   AS133841 -- IDOLA-BROADBAND-AS-ID
> INDONESIA BROADBAND ACCESS - ANYWHERE, ID
> >> 7 - 195.128.159.0/24  15455  0.5%   AS56636 -- ASVEDARU , RU
> >> 8 - 192.254.88.0/24   15452  0.5%   AS21859 -- ZNET - Zenlayer Inc, US
> >> 9 - 185.11.121.0/24   14957  0.5%   AS202105 -- DSP-AS , SA
> >
> > Everyone of these prefixes have managed to average one update per 40
> seconds during a week, or worse. How is that even possible? Yes, I know we
> don't generally have dampening anymore, but geez, that's a lot of updates.
> >
>
> In the case of Cook Islands Telecom the problem is not directly with them
> - its their one-up upstream Spark NZ (AS4648) who appears to be flicking
> this route across a number of transit upstreams (
> http://bgpupdates.potaroo.net/cgi-bin/per-prefix?prefix=202.65.32.0.21)
>
> Geoff
>
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