I'd like to pick up on the Jan. post about the use of Best Angle tree
stakes in a trellis system below.  
What are the wind conditions in this application below?  Are they more
susceptible to being pulled over in a cross wind than wooden stakes. 

-Deirdre

Deirdre Birmingham
Regan Creek Orchard
Mineral Point, WI  53565




> [Original Message]
> From: Jill Kelly <[email protected]>
> To: Apple-Crop <[email protected]>
> Date: 1/31/2010 7:32:37 PM
> Subject: Re: Apple-Crop: posts for organic orchard
>
> I have some rows that are 375 ft long supported by Best Angle stakes that 
> are in their 14th year.  A Vert Axe system on M9 at 5X15.  I have been
very 
> careful to keep large limbs out of the tops.  The Best Angle stakes are
the 
> largest ones, 10' long and about every 30'.  So far so good.  We used the 
> same system in 2002 on more 375' rows.  So far so good on those as well. 
> The end anchors are either buried wheel rims or those helix anchors.
>
> Art Kelly
> Kelly Orchards
> Acton, ME
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jon Clements" <[email protected]>
> To: "Apple-Crop" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 7:37 PM
> Subject: Re: Apple-Crop: posts for organic orchard
>
>
> I am intrigued by the option of using metal stakes (best angle?) for
> smaller plantings (several acres) and with very hi-density systems
> (tall-spindle or super spindle, 3 ft or 2 ft between trees
> respectively) on, for example, B.9 rootstock. But I have been told
> they will not hold up? I am thinking row lengths of several hundred
> feet, placing the stakes every 10 meters (30 feet) or so, 10 ft. tall
> stakes driven 2.5 feet into ground puts the top wire at 7.5 feet.
> Seems cost-effective, easy to run wires through holes, easy to drive
> (compared to wood) and should be OK for organic. Need to figure out
> the end-support I suppose. What am I missing?
>
> Jon
>
> On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Gary Mount
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I will be planting an orchard for organic production this year and am
> > looking for a solution to obtaining posts. As far as I know, treated
posts
> > are not acceptable in the NOP (I would love to stand corrected on this 
> > one)
> > and I don,t like metal posts very much. I saw some really nice concrete
> > posts at Fruit Logistica last winter in Berlin, but don't know of any
in 
> > the
> > USA. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
> >
> > -
> > Gary Mount
> > Terhune Orchards
> > 330 Cold Soil Rd
> > Princeton, NJ 08540
> > 609-924-2310
> > 609-924-8569 fx
> > 609-462-9672 cell
> >
> >
> >
> >
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