We are not overly windy. We recently did experience some 50-60 mph winds with no canopy as yet. We also get the occasional hurricane with the high winds associated with the storm. Our exposure is not great. We have about 25 acres in the orchard and are surrounded by woods so we miss the strongest of the winds. The key seems to be to get the stakes closer than a more substantial wood post and to keep the large limbs out of the tops of the trees. I would space the stakes no further than 30'. They are more likely to bend than pull out. We drive the 10' stakes 2' into the ground.
Art Kelly Kelly Orchards Acton, Me 04001 On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 9:47 PM, [email protected] < [email protected]> wrote: > I'd like to pick up on the Jan. post about the use of Best Angle tree > stakes in a trellis system below. > What are the wind conditions in this application below? Are they more > susceptible to being pulled over in a cross wind than wooden stakes. > > -Deirdre > > Deirdre Birmingham > Regan Creek Orchard > Mineral Point, WI 53565 > > > > > > [Original Message] > > From: Jill Kelly <[email protected]> > > To: Apple-Crop <[email protected]> > > Date: 1/31/2010 7:32:37 PM > > Subject: Re: Apple-Crop: posts for organic orchard > > > > I have some rows that are 375 ft long supported by Best Angle stakes that > > are in their 14th year. A Vert Axe system on M9 at 5X15. I have been > very > > careful to keep large limbs out of the tops. The Best Angle stakes are > the > > largest ones, 10' long and about every 30'. So far so good. We used the > > same system in 2002 on more 375' rows. So far so good on those as well. > > The end anchors are either buried wheel rims or those helix anchors. > > > > Art Kelly > > Kelly Orchards > > Acton, ME > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jon Clements" <[email protected]> > > To: "Apple-Crop" <[email protected]> > > Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 7:37 PM > > Subject: Re: Apple-Crop: posts for organic orchard > > > > > > I am intrigued by the option of using metal stakes (best angle?) for > > smaller plantings (several acres) and with very hi-density systems > > (tall-spindle or super spindle, 3 ft or 2 ft between trees > > respectively) on, for example, B.9 rootstock. But I have been told > > they will not hold up? I am thinking row lengths of several hundred > > feet, placing the stakes every 10 meters (30 feet) or so, 10 ft. tall > > stakes driven 2.5 feet into ground puts the top wire at 7.5 feet. > > Seems cost-effective, easy to run wires through holes, easy to drive > > (compared to wood) and should be OK for organic. Need to figure out > > the end-support I suppose. What am I missing? > > > > Jon > > > > On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Gary Mount > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I will be planting an orchard for organic production this year and am > > > looking for a solution to obtaining posts. As far as I know, treated > posts > > > are not acceptable in the NOP (I would love to stand corrected on this > > > one) > > > and I don,t like metal posts very much. I saw some really nice concrete > > > posts at Fruit Logistica last winter in Berlin, but don't know of any > in > > > the > > > USA. Can anyone point me in the right direction? > > > > > > - > > > Gary Mount > > > Terhune Orchards > > > 330 Cold Soil Rd > > > Princeton, NJ 08540 > > > 609-924-2310 > > > 609-924-8569 fx > > > 609-462-9672 cell > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > The 'Apple-Crop' LISTSERV is sponsored by the Virtual Orchard > > > <http://www.virtualorchard.net> and managed by Win Cowgill and Jon > > > Clements > > > <[email protected]>. > > > > > > Apple-Crop is not moderated. Therefore, the statements do not represent > > > "official" opinions and the Virtual Orchard takes no responsibility for > > > the > > > content. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > JMCEXTMAN > > Jon Clements > > [email protected] > > aka 'Mr Liberty' > > aka 'Mr Honeycrisp' > > IM mrhoneycrisp > > 413.478.7219 > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > The 'Apple-Crop' LISTSERV is sponsored by the Virtual Orchard > > <http://www.virtualorchard.net> and managed by Win Cowgill and Jon > > Clements <[email protected]>. > > > > Apple-Crop is not moderated. Therefore, the statements do not represent > > "official" opinions and the Virtual Orchard takes no responsibility for > > the content. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > The 'Apple-Crop' LISTSERV is sponsored by the Virtual Orchard > > <http://www.virtualorchard.net> and managed by Win Cowgill and Jon > > Clements <[email protected]>. > > > > Apple-Crop is not moderated. Therefore, the statements do not represent > > "official" opinions and the Virtual Orchard takes no responsibility for > > the content. > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The 'Apple-Crop' LISTSERV is sponsored by the Virtual Orchard > <http://www.virtualorchard.net> and managed by Win Cowgill and Jon > Clements <[email protected]>. > > Apple-Crop is not moderated. Therefore, the statements do not represent > "official" opinions and the Virtual Orchard takes no responsibility for > the content. > > > > > >
