John,

Considering the date of the "Pie" business the price is probably inline with
todays market.
Think of this:
In 1960 my mother would send me to the corner store for a Loaf of Bread,
quart of milk and a pack of cigarettes.  She would intrust me with a single
$ and always remind me to bring back the change.  Approx $.10

In todays world (New Jersey, Pa):
Loaf of bread  costs approx. $2.29
1 Quart of Milk cost             $1.79
1 pack of cigarettes             $7.00

Total                                  $11.08  somewhat more than 12 times
the price for the equivalent value.  If you multiply $1.25 X 12 = $15.00 for
a fresh homemade pie.  I believe that is a going price for a pie today in an
UPSCALE bakery.  Sounds like both the customer and the seller were getting
what they paid for.

Michael Vaughn
Owner/Manager
Pie-In-the-Sky Orchard
New Milford, Pa

On 7/30/10, JOHN BELISLE <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>  David,
>
>
>
> As to the question of fair price. Was $1.25 for a hand crafted pie a fair
> price.  Sounds a little country  farmy to me. (meaning to cheap)   Did a
> multitude of pies at $1.25 bring in enough money to pay your help a living
> wage??? Did the $1.25 a pie allow your family to hire help to keep your Dad
> from working 12 hours a day???   If it did then $1.25 could have been a fair
> price for your DAD,  if it did not then the price was only fair to the
> customer.
>
>
>
> I am afraid far too many of us consider fair to be a selling price that
> returns far too little for us.  Should we not strive to price like the Sunny
> Slope Peach???  Why are we so afraid?
>
>
>
> JOHN
>
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Arthur Kelly
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 29, 2010 5:37 PM
> *To:* Apple-Crop
> *Subject:* Re: Apple-Crop: A discussion of the vision of doing business
>
>
>
> See Peter Drucker, "The Five Deadly Business Sins"
>
>
>
> Art Kelly, Kelly Orchards, Acton, ME
>
> On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 7:26 PM, David Barclay <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> John,
> I think the bottom line regarding the fair price is that we are all subject
> to the market of our products. That said, - there are many examples in the
> produce markets of producers creating their own brands and farm retailers
> providing exceptional products, services and activities which command the
> extra gross income. I remember in the 1970's buying a brand of peaches
> called Sunny Slope. These peaches would consistently cost 25% more that the
> average marks. And, - they were 25% better, bigger size and more consistent
> quality. You know what? The retailer made more money on the Sunny Slopes,
> less waste and more appeal to the retail customer. My Dad and Mom started
> baking apple pies in 1960 for our new farm market. The pies were really
> good, - the best apples for flavor and homemade crust., perfect spices -
> baked to a golden brown. Dad set the price back then at $1.25 for a 9" pie.
> You couldn't keep up with the demand. We worked 7 days a week to build the
> business. Hundreds of pies were sold, - then thousands, - then 10's of
> thousands. Was that a fair price? Well, - I guess so because the volume was
> the answer. Today I look back and think Dad was pretty lucky but for sure he
> had a vision of what would sell and have appeal. I think this opportunity
> exists for everyone in agriculture.
>
> David Barclay
> Colts Neck, New Jersey
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Owner / Manager
Pie-In-the-Sky Orchards

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