FL56 is a rootstock smaller than most 9's. It is not fireblight resistant. I have been told it likes to top out around 8 feet. Availability may be an issue.
On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Matt Pellerin <[email protected]> wrote: > The reason I am so interested in maximizing production is because we have > significant space limitations and are currently unable to meet the demand > of our customers. That's motivation to look for the system which provides > a good picking experience while reaching the maximum possible production. > > Matt > On Jul 4, 2014 11:29 AM, "Arthur Kelly" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Maximum yield isn't necessarily the same thing as maximum sales. In my >> opinion, the selling is more important than anything else. Yes, good >> yields of good quality fruit is important, but being good at selling and >> how much you are able to get for what you have to sell trumps everything >> else. If you are able to sell for $40.00/bu what needs to happen to get >> that price in terms of customer experience is the priority. >> >> p.s. No, we are not able to get that much but there are farms in the area >> that do. We still wholesale a large percentage of the crop. >> >> Art Kelly >> Kelly Orchards >> Acton, Maine >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 2:13 PM, David Doud <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> not an expert here, but it's my understanding in a spindle system the >>> space between trees in the row is determined by what renewal pruning will >>> fill and that much over 3' between trees in most situations would require >>> permanent woody architecture to keep the space filled, which brings about >>> several horticultural challenges - >>> >>> then the space between rows versus the height of the trees becomes a >>> calculation to maximize yield - >>> >>> in a you-pick situation I'd suggest that maximum yield would be a >>> secondary consideration to logistics - that wider rows and shorter trees >>> for convenience and safety would override a certain percentage of maximum >>> theoretical yield - >>> >>> I shudder to consider what strategies the public might employ to harvest >>> that beautiful apple just out of their reach... >>> >>> if my understanding is incorrect, feel free to challenge - >>> >>> David >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jul 3, 2014, at 11:21 AM, Matt Pellerin wrote: >>> >>> Thanks for the responses. I was thinking of going to a 10 x 3 orchard >>> growing Honeycrisp on M26 and Macoun on Bud 9. I think the 10 x 3 spacing >>> puts the tree height at 8.5' which will work pretty well for pick-your-own. >>> On this kind of spacing, will I still be within the Tall Spindle category? >>> Will I have to make adjustments in my pruning methodology or will the >>> typical tall spindle pruning and training recommendations work? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Matt >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 8:26 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I concur with Dennis' evaluation of Dr. Robinson's videos; this system >>>> has >>>> forced even stubborn high-chill varieties to transition from vegetative >>>> mode to fruiting mode in hot climates and the tropics. >>>> >>>> I wanted to address Matthew's desire to keep the trees around 6' tall. >>>> This sounds like it would take a very dwarfing rootstock like M27; do >>>> any >>>> of our growers have experience training these as tall spindle? >>>> >>>> Kevin Hauser >>>> Kuffel Creek Apple Nursery >>>> Riverside, California >>>> Nakifuma, Uganda >>>> >>>> On Thu, 3 Jul 2014 00:23:19 -0500, <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> > matthew, >>>> > >>>> > We have been growing tall spindle in northern Illinois in a >>>> pick-your-own >>>> > orchard for around 5 or 6 years now. The system has been improving >>>> over >>>> > the years and currently the newer spacing being recommended by Dr. >>>> Terence >>>> > Robinson >>>> > from Cornell is around 12' x 3'. I highly recommend watching the >>>> videos >>>> > at YouTube he did at the Winter Apple School in Henderson County, NC >>>> found >>>> > at http://youtu.be/gJF4wLgXnK8 >>>> > >>>> > After viewing this video and others on the BRCC TV - The Educational >>>> > Channel on YouTube covering the Tall Spindle System, we will be making >>>> the >>>> > recommended changes to our current system of 14' x 4'. >>>> > >>>> > Hope this helps. >>>> > >>>> > Dennis Norton >>>> > IPM Specialist/Certified Nurseryman >>>> > Royal Oak Farm Orchard >>>> > 15908 Hebron Rd. >>>> > Harvard, IL 60033-9357 >>>> > Office (815) 648-4467 >>>> > Mobile (815) 228-2174 >>>> > Fax (609) 228-2174 >>>> > http://www.royaloakfarmorchard.com >>>> > http://www.royaloakfarmorchard.blogspot.com >>>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>>> > From: Matt Pellerin >>>> > To: [email protected] >>>> > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:55 PM >>>> > Subject: [apple-crop] Narrow Tall Spindle Layout >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > I am a grower in central Maine that operates a pick-your-own >>>> orchard. >>>> I >>>> > will be planting a tall spindle orchard next year. I would like to >>>> plant >>>> > the rows as narrow as possible in combination with shorter trees so >>>> the >>>> > customers can reach more of the fruit. My orchard tractor is 54" >>>> wide. >>>> > How narrow can I plant my tall spindle orchard with this equipment? >>>> > Also, what would be the appropriate tree height at the narrow row >>>> > spacing? >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Thanks, >>>> > -- >>>> > >>>> > Matthew Pellerin >>>> > Agricultural Manager >>>> > Treworgy Family Orchards >>>> > 3876 Union St >>>> > Levant, ME 04456 >>>> > >>>> > www.treworgyorchards.com >>>> > >>>> > 207-884-8354 >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > apple-crop mailing list >>>> > [email protected] >>>> > http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> apple-crop mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Matthew Pellerin >>> Agricultural Manager >>> Treworgy Family Orchards >>> 3876 Union St >>> Levant, ME 04456 >>> www.treworgyorchards.com >>> 207-884-8354 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> apple-crop mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> apple-crop mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Art Kelly >> Kelly Orchards >> Acton, ME >> >> _______________________________________________ >> apple-crop mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop >> >> > _______________________________________________ > apple-crop mailing list > [email protected] > http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop > >
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